Robert Kearns

[gaffy]

So is Ellen Devlin - Ellen Keele? 

It has to be a possibility, we know from the 1919 Keela death that Andrew was her grandson and the 1901 - 1911 age difference could simply be classic Old Age Pension age inflation (1908 Act, introduced in 1909). But as I said, I can't find a marriage to Keela (or variant spellings).

[gaffy]

Mid Ulster Mail, 12 July 1913:  SALES BY AUCTION. MONDAY, 14th, at 4 o'clock, for Reps. Mr Arthur Grimes, 8 Pecks Flax, 2 Acres Forcegrass,1/2 Acre Oats, 1/2 Acre of Potatoes, in Boveagh.

Mention of "Reps." could suggest that Arthur did indeed leave as intended.

[kieran257]

Hi all,

Thank you all for your kind help as this family is not easy to sort out

I was told Robert Kearns was listed as Robert Querns in Dungiven but I can't see him in any census?

Thanks for all your help as always very much appreciated

Kieran

[gaffy]

The only folk I could find in that vicinity were these ones, John "Quiarns" and Mary Hutton, I couldn't find a son Robert though:
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Dungiven/Dungiven/1524330/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Dungiven/Main_Street/595216/

By the way, I can see a transcript of a baptism in Ballinascreen RC parish for an Andrew Kearns baptised on 19 May 1895 for parents transcribed as Robert Kearns and Sarah "McCarron", the sponsor was a Mary Anne Kane and a comment added to the record says Father-Protestant. Married Catherine Henrietta Woods on 29 October 1929 at Straw.

[heywood]

There is this death - apologies if already posted!
Sarah Cairns, 30 years, married of Straw
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05756/4625906.pdf

The informant - mother Ellen Devlin

[gaffy]

That's definitely interesting... 

[gaffy]

The following is reaching a bit, but given the intractable nature of the research for these folk so far, I'll mention it just in case.  It is a marriage in Greenlough RC parish on 28 November 1875 between a John Kealey and Ellen Devlin of Tyanee, witnessed by Mrs. John Madden and Mrs Kelly.

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633046?locale=en#page/101/mode/1up (bottom of right page)

On the downside, Tyanee is well northeast of the action so far and I can find neither a civil registration of this marriage nor any evidence of children.  My line of thinking is that John maybe died early and Ellen Devlin had reverted to her maiden name by the time of the 1901 Ireland census, before re-assuming her married name in 1911 (maybe something to do with claiming the Old Age Pension?). Flimsy I know, but there has to be something like that to explain what's going on.

[heywood]

That’s frustrating isn’t it.
I can see the civil marriages round about that one but I can’t go back and forth on my iPad.

Added
Managed to do a couple of pages but that marriage not there.

[gaffy]

Just another newspaper item similar to previous ones at reply #13, this one from the Northern Constitution of 16 January 1909, confirming that Arthur Grimes was also being called Arthur Graham and mentioning Ellen Devlin:

MAGHERAFELT RURAL BOARDS
BOARD OF GUARDIANS
BOARDING-OUT
An application was received from Arthur Graham, of Boveagh, for permission to adopt a boy at present in the workhouse named Andrew Kearns.  It appeared that Graham was an uncle to the boy.  A letter was also received from Ellen Devlin, who claimed to be the grandmother of the boy, objecting to his being given out to Graham.  After discussion, it was decided that the Clerk should furnish Graham with the query sheet to be filled up, and then the Local Government Board could decide the matter.