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Robert Kearns
« on: Sunday 25 January 26 02:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi all.

I am hoping that someone can help me as I am at a loss trying to find this family:

Robert Kearns married Sarah McKernan
They had two children

Andrew born in 14 May 1895 and died 18 Nov 1954 in Boveagh, Desertmartin, Co Derry

Willie /Kearns/ (Kerins) born in 1896 ?

This is the family in 1901

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Bancran/Tonaght/1543510/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Iniscarn/Boveagh/610432/

Can anyone help find the parents or Willie birth etc

Thanks for all your kind help as always it is very much appreciated

Kieran

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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 January 26 02:51 GMT (UK) »
Yes, they are difficult indeed.

This is Andrews birth. I know you already have it.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1895/02221/1837910.pdf
Informant is Ellen - the grandmother?
Robert is a tailor in that record.

? Possible marriage here. Robert is a shirt cutter.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1897/10462/5809718.pdf


Have you tried the spelling CAIRNS for KEANS?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 January 26 05:30 GMT (UK) »
This is the death of grandmother Ellen Keela in 1919.
Grandson Andrew Kearns informant.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05154/4421264.pdf
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 January 26 07:57 GMT (UK) »

Willie /Kearns/ (Kerins) born in 1896 ?

On the census, It is NELLIE, not Willie.
Nellie is a version of Ellen.
How do you know she is the child of RObert and Sarah?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 January 26 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Neale1961,

Thank you so much for all your help

I see you have been able to find a few pieces of the puzzle which is fantastic.

Andrew and Nellie are siblings according to the census Grandson and Granddaughter

Could Ellen Devlin be Nellie married to Devlin?  Also I beleive the surname Otterson is related to this family

Arthur Grimes death

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05764/4628732.pdf

No trace of Robert or Sarah

Sarah who I believe married 3 times?

Thank you again so much for all your help it is so much appreciated

Kieran


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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 January 26 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Andrew and Nellie are siblings according to the census Grandson and Granddaughter
The census doesn't say they are siblings just that they are Ellen's grandchildren.

Can Arthur Grimes be found?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05764/4628732.pdf
What do you mean by found? He was born before registration of births so there will be no birth certificate. He wasn't married so no marriage registration. He died before the 1901 census. You have his death registration.

No trace of Robert or Sarah who I beleive married 3 times?
Who married 3 times? Robert or Sarah?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 January 26 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Can Arthur Grimes be found?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1900/05764/4628732.pdf
What do you mean by found? He was born before registration of births so there will be no birth certificate. He wasn't married so no marriage registration. He died before the 1901 census. You have his death registration.

Arthur was alive for the 1911 census. The death found cannot be correct.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 25 January 26 19:58 GMT (UK) »

…. Also I beleive the surname Otterson is related to this family
Please explain and provide more information.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Robert Kearns
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 25 January 26 20:59 GMT (UK) »
With reference to Arthur ‘Grimes’

There is this death in 1912, although the age is out.
Arthur Graham, 42 yrs of Boveagh.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05354/4491922.pdf
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