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Offline aghadowey

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Re: Locating interdenominational marriage record
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 January 26 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Here is Ellen - 6th February 1862 - hard to read and find
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632972?locale=en#page/36/mode/1up

It is transcribed as ‘Ellen’ but does not look like that really.
First line might be name of priest? (appears in several entries). Second line clearly Ellen.
Can't see marriage or death for her in Coleraine area at the moment.
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Re: Locating interdenominational marriage record
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 January 26 18:02 GMT (UK) »
I agree with the priest’s signature.
Of course it is Ellen - when I was looking at it again I was looking at John and trying to decipher that and make it into Ellen!
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Re: Locating interdenominational marriage record
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 22 January 26 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Ellen had two sons - William (born 31st December 1881) and John (born 14th August 1884) - no father listed on their birth records. They were both living with their grandmother Eliza at Masteragwee, Coleraine on the 1901 census. I can't for the life of me figure out where she ended up!

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Re: Locating interdenominational marriage record
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 22 January 26 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Logan born 1858, died on October 24th 1867 at the Bogs, Ballyrashane.


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Re: Locating interdenominational marriage record
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 22 January 26 21:17 GMT (UK) »
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Eliza was a Catholic as she was buried in an unmarked grave in Coleraine Cemetery and John a protestant.
Are you sure about their religions?

The Logans lived in Boghill in 1864 then again in 1877. There's a Patrick Logan also living at Boghill-
marriage in 1855 (Coleraine Registry Office)-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1855/09487/5438215.pdf
Birth of son William there in 1865-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1865/03566/2313489.pdf

I only found out recently that she is buried on her own in the RC section in Coleraine Cemetery (grave unmarked) but her husband John wasn't buried with her. We think he was buried at First Dunboe Presbyterian Churchyard.

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Re: Locating interdenominational marriage record
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 22 January 26 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Well, we've identifies 8 children (as per entry on 1911 census but could be an error). The original request was for help finding the marriage of John Logan and Eliza Kennedy.
If it took place c1857 and was a Catholic ceremony then there will be no civil record. If it took place in Coleraine (as most of the baptisms did) then it is only the baptisms that survive pre-registration.
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0341&parish=Coleraine
I did check a few parishes outside Coleraine-
Tamlaghtard- https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0379&parish=Tamlaghtard
Limavady goes back much further (both online and elsewhere)-
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0363
https://www.johngrenham.com/records/rc_church.php?churchid=0363&parish=Limavady

I did lots of searching, found lots of information but this bit would be worth following up as it might lead to information of Eliza's parents, possibly siblings, and where she lived.
1908- Old Age pension- Elizabeth Logan, Balleney (from list in newspaper)
I checked the National Archives (Dublin) website but I thing any record might be in PRONI, Belfast.
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Re: Locating interdenominational marriage record
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 22 January 26 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Chrismckeever43- what information do you have on this ?(might lead to some clues about Eliza's family)
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I have DNA links to a James Kennedy (possibe brother to Eliza) who was married to a Margaret Sherwood and I believe he was from Myroe, Limavady.
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Re: Locating interdenominational marriage record
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 22 January 26 23:43 GMT (UK) »
Chrismckeever43- what information do you have on this ?(might lead to some clues about Eliza's family)
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I have DNA links to a James Kennedy (possibe brother to Eliza) who was married to a Margaret Sherwood and I believe he was from Myroe, Limavady.

I also share a connection to John and Eliza Logan. Their daughter Susannah was my great-grandmother (married Edward Hutton). I have two potential brothers for Eliza, William and Patrick Kennedy. William's wife was Margaret Sherwood and he ended up in Ontario, Canada and he died on October 21st 1907 with a birthdate of around 1825. I have at least 50 close-ish DNA links to multiple of his children so it is highly plausible he was a brother. Patrick married Margaret Brewster on October 18th 1864, he was living at Broglasco, Limavady. Patrick and Margaret then relocated to Glasgow and he died there on January 17th 1895 (parents listed as William and Elizabeth Kennedy (nee McNaught). William was a common family name - multiple William Logan's.

I am interested in the old-age pension for Elizabeth Logan - is this something that may contain a lot of information?

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Re: Locating interdenominational marriage record
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 22 January 26 23:52 GMT (UK) »
Chrismckeever43- what information do you have on this ?(might lead to some clues about Eliza's family)
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I have DNA links to a James Kennedy (possibe brother to Eliza) who was married to a Margaret Sherwood and I believe he was from Myroe, Limavady.

Elizabeth Logan died 14th December 1924 aged 93 at Masteragwee, Coleraine - grandson John Hutton was present at her death.