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Re: Alexander Graham and Ann Campbell
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 20 January 26 02:09 GMT (UK) »
Ann Campbell Graham died  17 /09/1869 Island of Islay Garttoist Kilarrow Argyll parents unknown. I have not gone for the death certs.

The only death I can see for Ann CAMPBELL / Ann GRAHAM in  1869 Bowmore or Kilarrow was for someone aged 26. Mother’s name Carmichael.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Alexander Graham and Ann Campbell
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 20 January 26 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Ann Campbell Graham died  17 /09/1869 Island of Islay Garttoist Kilarrow Argyll parents unknown. I have not gone for the death certs.

The only death I can see for Ann CAMPBELL / Ann GRAHAM in  1869 Bowmore or Kilarrow was for someone aged 26. Mother’s name Carmichael.
You need to look at that certificate to check that her age has been correctly indexed. It it isn't, use the 'report error' tab to tell Scotland's People and get it corrected.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Alexander Graham and Ann Campbell
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 20 January 26 10:34 GMT (UK) »
I have not gone for the death certs.
You should do, because sometimes the name of the informant can be a useful clue.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Alexander Graham and Ann Campbell
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 20 January 26 11:00 GMT (UK) »
i would echo Forfarian's comments.

This would appear to be a transcription of the death in question from Familysearch. Here her age is given as 80 and her parents are shown as John Campbell and Mary Carmichael. Looking at Scotland's People it is probably the death showing in Tarbert RD (index has mmn as Campbell).

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X95J-MP1L?lang=en

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)


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Re: Alexander Graham and Ann Campbell
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 21 January 26 00:09 GMT (UK) »
thank you everyone. I will attempt to correct the death of Ann Campbell Graham with Scotland's p. I have checked the info with familysearch and  it matches up with the headstone.
I have a copy of the marriage  cert for MARRIAGE 04 April 1762 Kilninver and Kilmelfort
John GRAHAM to Marjory McMILLAN and have found Duncan is the father of John Graham. This is the only info I have on this couple. This is their children
GRAHAM    JOHN GRAHAM/MARJORY MCMILLAN FR53 (FR53)   M  18/05/1770 524/10 49  Kilninver and Kilmelfort
GRAHAM   MARJORY  JOHN GRAHAM/MARJORY MACMILLAN FR41 (FR41)   F   12/07/1767 524/10 37  Kilninver and Kilmelfort
GRAHAM  ARCHIBALD  JOHN GRAHAM/MARJORY MCMILLAN FR26 (FR26)  M   08/12/1762 524/10 22  Kilninver and Kilmelfort
Name   Graham   no name at birth
Sex   Male
Father's Name   John Graham
Father's Sex   Male
Mother's Name   Marjory McMillan
Mother's Sex   Female
Event Type   Christening
Event Date   18 May 1770
Event Place   Kilninver and Kilmelford, Argyll, Scotland
People are thinking that this is not Alexander. But there appears to be a big gap from 1870 to 1877?
GRAHAM   DUNCAN     JOHN GRAHAM/MARJORY MCMILLAN FR33 (FR33)  0  03/03/1765  524/10 29   Kilninver and Kilmelfort


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Re: Alexander Graham and Ann Campbell
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 21 January 26 01:13 GMT (UK) »

People are thinking that this is not Alexander. But there appears to be a big gap from 1870 to 1877?

Not necessarily a gap.
It is just that the last recorded baptism for that couple was in 1870.
It is quite possible there were other children, who like Alexander, do not have birth / baptism records.

Unless Marjory died early, or was quite old when she married, one would normally expect a woman to have children across a 15-20 year period. So it is possible that during the 1770s there were another 4 children (including Alexander), whose records no longer exist.

Having a look at the 1841 census for Argyllshire, there are quite a number of very elderly people with the Graham surname that could be from the same family line.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Alexander Graham and Ann Campbell
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 21 January 26 01:40 GMT (UK) »
MARRIAGE Banns
17 Feb. 1781 (?) Craignish, Argyll.
4 March 1780 Kilninver and Kilmelfort
John CAMPBELL and Mary CARMICHAEL

Baptisms / births of children
Mary  CAMPBELL 06/01/1783 Kilninver and Kilmelfort
Ann CAMPBELL 12/09/1784 Kilninver and Kilmelfort
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Alexander Graham and Ann Campbell
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 22 January 26 02:25 GMT (UK) »
thank you and I have contacted Scotland's p and they will amended the death of Ann Campbell Graham.
 I have had a look on Ancestry and there is a death for a John Graham in Kingston Jamaica. 1799. did people in those days  travel to Jamaica from Argyll and what would they being there for ? He would have had to have left in the late 1790's if the last child was born in 1777.

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Re: Alexander Graham and Ann Campbell
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 22 January 26 02:45 GMT (UK) »
Lots of Scots and English in Jamaica - plantation owners, merchants, and labourers / managers for other Scots.
John Graham is a very common Scottish name, so I would tread carefully and avoid jumping to conclusions.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)