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Re: Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 January 26 01:32 GMT (UK) »


Was the Thomas Lundie born in Grimsby in 1877 definitely the husband of Olga and father of Jack (John Ivor born 1914) ?


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Re: Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 January 26 09:10 GMT (UK) »
There is a Thomas Lundie age 32 b Lincoln on the 1911 census as a lodger in Chiswick with the Harriss
family. Mr Harriss may have misheard Lincolnshire for Lincoln when asking his lodger his place of birth when he had to fill in the census form. Occupation gunmaker's assistant, but it looks as though clerk was written first and crossed out. If this is the Thomas from Grimsby, it does put him in the London area just prior to marriage.
The only way to be certain is the marriage cert for Olga.
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Re: Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 19 January 26 17:10 GMT (UK) »
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There is a Thomas Lundie age 32 b Lincoln on the 1911 census as a lodger in Chiswick with the Harriss
family. Mr Harriss may have misheard Lincolnshire for Lincoln when asking his lodger his place of birth when he had to fill in the census form. Occupation gunmaker's assistant, but it looks as though clerk was written first and crossed out. If this is the Thomas from Grimsby, it does put him in the London area just prior to marriage.

Yes we think that is probably Thomas from Grimsby. We have been sent a copy of a 1915 letter rejecting his application for a position in the Army Ordnance Department, which would tie in with him having some knowledge of gunmaking.  The letter is addressed to T Lundie, 150 Brixton Hill.  There is a similar letter rejecting his application to join the Royal Fleet Auxiliary. 

These letters came from a family connection in France, who also placed him (presumably in military service) at Etaples in 1918,  at Camiers in 1919, and in Abbeville in 1920. At present I have no further information from that source.

Regarding his activities in London prior to his marriage, there are newspaper reports of a Thomas Lundie aged 36 acting as doorman for an illegal casino at 92 Knightsbridge, raided by the police in March 1913. His occupation was stated to be "agent" and his address as Park Road, Regents Park.
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Re: Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 19 January 26 17:51 GMT (UK) »
  I have to confess to being a bit lost with Thomas Lundy, but in case he is the father of John Ivor, I have done some research on him, (John) and it is not the happiest of stories.
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Re: Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 January 26 18:09 GMT (UK) »
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I have to confess to being a bit lost with Thomas Lundy, but in case he is the father of John Ivor, I have done some research on him, (John) and it is not the happiest of stories.

If you have seen the press report of his attempted suicide in 1934, you will have seen that his mother in Istanbul had been cabled, but there is no mention of his father.
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Re: Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 19 January 26 18:38 GMT (UK) »
  I did see that. It was the mention of him being a lone boy in the convent in Ramsgate that set me off!
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Re: Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 01 March 26 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Just logging some info on army service of the Thomas Lundie born in Grimsby in 1877. Unusually, the 1914-15 Royal Army Service Corps, Canteen Section, medal roll includes an address which enables him to be identified.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/5119/records/3619152

Acting Sergeant Major Thomas Lundie, 652 (later number A/391666).  The address (19 Church Road, Southend) is that of his wife's grandmother Thirza Marsh Baker Davis.

Mrs Davis (alias Madame Kiero)  is quite an interesting character. Her occupation in the 1911 census is "Occult Science".  She was fined in 1912 for deception in her activity as a palm reader.

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Re: Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 01 March 26 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Had a look at the Lundie family; father Thomas dies 1877 and they move to the London area after 1881 from Lincs. Louisa Mary Lundie (MN Tateson as all 4 childrens births are on the GRO) is not easy to find but luckily she is here 1891

3 York Place, St. Marylebone with Catherine and Clara,

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There is also a UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 for

Thomas Lundie born 1877 Great Grimsby Certificate Number   032026

The address on his certificate is 3 York Place, born 17th Feb 1877.

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Re: Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 02 March 26 09:50 GMT (UK) »
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3 York Place, St. Marylebone with Catherine and Clara

Yes, Louisa Lundie was running an upmarket boarding house there in the 1890s.  Still there in the 1899 PO Directory but gone by 1901 (she had moved to Hastings).
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