Who was Thomas Lundy/Lundie (c.1877-1952)? And who was Juliette (c1896-1947)?

[ShaunJ]

I am researching a Thomas “Lundy” who died at Horton Mental Hospital in Epsom in 1952, aged about 75. 

His death record reveals that he was a retired Messenger at the Board of Trade, and that his home was at 176 Westbourne Grove, London W11.

Electoral Rolls reveal that his surname was registered as Lundie, that he had previously lived at 14 Fairfax Road, Hampstead from 1945 and that until 1947 there was a Juliette Lundie at the same address.

Juliette was his wife and she died in 1947 aged 51. Her death registration records that Thomas was then a Stationery Clerk at the Board of Trade. 

Juliette does not appear in any published UK records prior to 1945, and I can find no record of their marriage. Neither she nor Thomas appear in the 1939 Register. Had they come to the UK during the war? Was she French or Belgian perhaps?

Board of Trade ….was he ex Royal Navy or Merchant Marine perhaps?

I've looked at the Thomas Lundie born in Grimsby in 1877 but the 1921 census for his son Jack (John Ivor born 1914) is noted "Father Dead", and the son's 1936 marriage record also records that his father was deceased. 

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Someone to look at,

Thomas LUNDY
Age:  34
Occupation:  Clerk

Arrival date:  18 Jan 1913
Port of Embarkation:  Freemantle
Landed:  Tilbury
Country of Last Permanent Residence:  Australia
Country of Intended Future Permanent Residence:  England

Ship name:  ?sterley
Ship departure port:  Brisbane
Ship destination port:  London


Regards,
Daisy

[LizzieL]

The ship was the Osterley and between Brisbane and Fremantle stopped at Sydney, Melbourne and Adelaide. Presuming this Thomas boarded at the nearest port to his residence, I would guess he might have lived in WA. But no sign of him on WA birth records.

[LizzieL]

I've looked at the Thomas Lundie born in Grimsby in 1877 but the 1921 census for his son Jack (John Ivor born 1914) is noted "Father Dead", and the son's 1936 marriage record also records that his father was deceased.

Assuming his mother was Olga Cynthia Cuthbert before marriage, have you checked her status in 1921?
Have you found Thomas's death record? Could he have deserted the family?

[ShaunJ]

Assuming his mother was Olga Cynthia Cuthbert before marriage, have you checked her status in 1921?

Yes - Olga Cynthia Lundie is at her apartment in Maybury Mansions, Marylebone, where she has lived since 1919 (per the electoral rolls) under her stage name Olga Berry. She lists her status as married, and her occupation as film actress. The census form is addressed to "Mr Berry".  Shortly after this she marries a Turkish diplomat, Ahmet Naci Kenter, and she spends the rest of her life in Istanbul, where she has six children. 

Have you found Thomas's death record? Could he have deserted the family?

No, I have not been able to find a death record for him, and it is quite possible that he had deserted the family. But would Olga have told her 7 year old son that his father was dead if she wasn't sure ?
 

[heywood]

Was the child in an orphanage in 1921? Maybe the death information was given or assumed when the child was taken in there.

[LizzieL]

It might be some sort of school. Maybe she told her son his father had died to account for the fact he wasn't on the scene. The marriage was Q4 1914, don't now actual date, but I suspect the son's birth was less than 9 months after, maybe she was deserted by Thomas soon after marriage.

[ShaunJ]

Just filling in some history on Olga

"Ahmet Naci Bey , was a promising foreign service officer working at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. During the Lausanne Peace Conference in 1922, he served as the Private Secretary to İsmet İnönü. When World War I broke out, he was studying at Glasgow University in Scotland and wanted to return to Turkey, but at the insistence of his father, Mehmet Galip Bey, he moved to London and began working at the embassy there. However, fate intervened; instead of becoming an electrical engineer, he became a diplomat at his father's suggestion. At a party given by a friend, he met the love of his life: the beautiful young English woman, Olga Cynthia . After a short courtship in 1920, he married her. Ahmet Naci Bey, his wife, and their three-year-old son, Jack, traveled from England to France. From Paris, they boarded the Orient Express , operated by the Wagon-Li Company , enjoying a pleasant train journey to Turkey."

"The fact that the bride was Christian, and had been married before and was a widow with one child, did not please her mother-in-law, Nuriye Hanım, at all."

https://sanatatak.com/tiyatro/yildiz-kenterin-ailesi-ve-cocuklugu/

[ShaunJ]

Was the child in an orphanage in 1921?

He was at a convent school in Ramsgate (Westcliff). The only male in the convent.