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Is Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell aka Allen also Kate Maria Thompson?
« on: Friday 16 January 26 06:36 GMT (UK) »
1 Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell Allen
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/PH9G-P68

Birth - GRO Online Indexes
CALDWELL, KATE  MARIA THOMPSON
Mother's Maiden Surname: -
GRO Reference: 1865  M Quarter in KETTERING  Volume 03B  Page 164

Kate Maria, daughter of Sarah Ann Colwell is Baptized 16 Apr. 1865 All Hallows, Wellingborough.

Her mother Sarah Ann Colwell married John Allen 11 March 1866 at All Hallows' Church, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England.
I've not found any records for Sarah Ann Allen nee Colwell after 1871 census

1871 Census she is in John Allen household, as Kate M Allen also with mother Sarah A Allen and sister Harriett E Allen.


2 Kate Maria Thompson was born about 1866, Northamptonshire, England
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/KV1H-JJJ Edited to add link

1881 census Kate Thompson is with grandparents John and Lucy Thompson.
Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England Class: RG11; Piece: 1573; Folio: 34; Page: 16

1891 census Kate Maria Thompson is with parents John Thompson and Eliza Lovell
John Thompson and Eliza Lovell married 1883.
Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England Class: RG12; Piece: 1213; Folio 135; Page 72

Kate Maria Thompson marries Frank Taylor 24 Sept 1896 Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England

1901 census Kate M Taylor is with her husband Frank Taylor
, Northamptonshire, England Class: RG13; Piece: 1447; Folio: 113; Page: 25

I have not found any records for Kate Maria and husband Frank Taylor after the 1901 census.

Mick Jeffs

Just adding this for reference,
1881 census for John Allen household,
Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, England Class: RG11; Piece: 1572; Folio: 38; Page: 13
70: 13 Wood St
ALLEN John Head Mar 33 Wellingborough, Northamptonshire Shoe Closer
CLARK Maria (Blank) S 48 Thorney, Northamptonshire Domestic
CLARK Voiletta Daughter S 17 Cold Ashby, Northamptonshire Shoe Fitter
ALLEN Emily Daughter S 14 Wellingborough, Northamptonshire Shoe Machinist
ALLEN Ellen Daughter S 7 Wellingborough, Northamptonshire

Maria CLARK is my 3rd Great Grandmother, Violetta CLARK (Sophia Violetta Weston CLARK) and Ellen ALLEN (Ellen Maria ALLEN aka CLARK) are her daughters.
Emily ALLEN (Harriet Emily ALLEN) is the daughter of John ALLEN and Sarah Ann COLWELL.
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones - born 1863 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
daughter of James Jones and Eliza Aston
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: Is Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell aka Allen also Kate Maria Thompson?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 January 26 09:58 GMT (UK) »
It appears that Frank Taylor & Kate at some point moved to Vancouver, Canada

Kate died 21 February 1945. Her birth date stated as 12 March 1867.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL25-7PL?lang=en&cid=fs_copy

Frank died 25 Sep 1946 at Vancouver, British Columbia https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLL4-P43?lang=en&cid=fs_copy

https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/391db8c5-d2de-49b5-b482-60ba030074fb

They had a daughter, Sybil Gertrude in 1903

TAYLOR, SYBIL  GERTRUDE     THOMPSON 
GRO Reference: 1903  M Quarter in KETTERING  Volume 03B  Page 180

Frank, Kate & Sybil immigrated in 1907: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2QSZ-YSJ?lang=en&cid=fs_copy
Allan, Bell, Bolam, Bollum, Burrell, Campbell, Colthard, Conroy, Harrison, Howey, Keeney , Keough, Kirkup, Muldoon, Rooney, Storey, Valentine, Weatherson, Weatherstone (Nthland)
Ford, Aynsley, Lewis, Brown, Myers (Durham)
Green, Dillon, Drain, Cox, Muldoon (Lanark)

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Re: Is Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell aka Allen also Kate Maria Thompson?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 January 26 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Thanks mulberry-rose,

I did forget to check Familysearch

Mick

It appears that Frank Taylor & Kate at some point moved to Vancouver, Canada

Kate died 21 February 1945. Her birth date stated as 12 March 1867.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FL25-7PL?lang=en&cid=fs_copy

Frank died 25 Sep 1946 at Vancouver, British Columbia https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLL4-P43?lang=en&cid=fs_copy

https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/391db8c5-d2de-49b5-b482-60ba030074fb

They had a daughter, Sybil Gertrude in 1903

TAYLOR, SYBIL  GERTRUDE     THOMPSON 
GRO Reference: 1903  M Quarter in KETTERING  Volume 03B  Page 180

Frank, Kate & Sybil immigrated in 1907: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2QSZ-YSJ?lang=en&cid=fs_copy
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones - born 1863 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
daughter of James Jones and Eliza Aston
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: Is Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell aka Allen also Kate Maria Thompson?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 January 26 12:35 GMT (UK) »
Could this be Sarah Ann in 1881 still going under the name Allen (albeit separated from John Allen)?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-W7D2?lang=en&cid=fs_copy

If you look at the original image she is at 19 High Street whilst just a few lines down at 1 Whitton’s Buildings is the Thompson family

In this census she’s born at “Harbrey” and in the 1851 one at “Arbrey” (Harbury)
Allan, Bell, Bolam, Bollum, Burrell, Campbell, Colthard, Conroy, Harrison, Howey, Keeney , Keough, Kirkup, Muldoon, Rooney, Storey, Valentine, Weatherson, Weatherstone (Nthland)
Ford, Aynsley, Lewis, Brown, Myers (Durham)
Green, Dillon, Drain, Cox, Muldoon (Lanark)


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Re: Is Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell aka Allen also Kate Maria Thompson?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 January 26 12:58 GMT (UK) »


Death Notice Frank Taylor - Sept 1946

26 Sept 1946
The Province(Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada)

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province/189045410/

Death Notice Kate Maria Taylor

24 Feb 1945
The Vancouver Sun(Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada)

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-vancouver-sun/189045471/

23 Feb 1945
The Province(Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada)

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province/189045499/

Sandra



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Re: Is Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell aka Allen also Kate Maria Thompson?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 January 26 13:00 GMT (UK) »

Daughter Sybil Taylor/Sundman

8 Jul 1992
The Province(Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada)

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province/189045534/

Marriage

20 May 1946
The Province(Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada)

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province/189045583/

Sandra
BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

Census information is Crown Copyright  http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

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Re: Is Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell aka Allen also Kate Maria Thompson?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 16 January 26 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Yes
1851 is Arbrey
1861 is Harbre/Herbre
1871 is Harbury
1881 is Harbrey

Thanks Mick

Could this be Sarah Ann in 1881 still going under the name Allen (albeit separated from John Allen)?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-W7D2?lang=en&cid=fs_copy

If you look at the original image she is at 19 High Street whilst just a few lines down at 1 Whitton’s Buildings is the Thompson family

In this census she’s born at “Harbrey” and in the 1851 one at “Arbrey” (Harbury)
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones - born 1863 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
daughter of James Jones and Eliza Aston
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: Is Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell aka Allen also Kate Maria Thompson?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 16 January 26 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Thanks mulberry-rose and Sandra
Jeffs - Northamptonshire to Leicestershire to Queensland, Australia
Lewis - Wales to Gloucestershire to NSW & Queensland, Australia
Iddols & Baylis - Gloucestershire
Mary Jones - born 1863 Staffordshire, died 1948 Queensland, Australia
daughter of James Jones and Eliza Aston
Dorans - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Ralph - Ireland to Scotland to Queensland, Australia
Jillett - Robert, Transported Convict from Surrey
Christison - Edinburgh,Scotland
Cameron - Edinburgh, Scotland

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Re: Is Kate Maria Thompson Caldwell aka Allen also Kate Maria Thompson?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 January 26 19:10 GMT (UK) »
I don’t know if you’re aware of this but thought worth adding

John & Sarah Ann appear to have had another child Thomas, born & died in 1870

ALLEN, THOMAS      COLWELL
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH  Volume 03B  Page 140   

ALLEN, THOMAS   0
GRO Reference: 1870  S Quarter in WELLINGBOROUGH  Volume 03B  Page 122   
Allan, Bell, Bolam, Bollum, Burrell, Campbell, Colthard, Conroy, Harrison, Howey, Keeney , Keough, Kirkup, Muldoon, Rooney, Storey, Valentine, Weatherson, Weatherstone (Nthland)
Ford, Aynsley, Lewis, Brown, Myers (Durham)
Green, Dillon, Drain, Cox, Muldoon (Lanark)