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Re: Elsie may Gardiner
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 20:56 »
Possible?

Thomas Gardiner
Age   66
Birth Date    24 Sep 1918
Death Registration    Nov 1984
Waltham Forest  Vol 15 p662

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Re: Elsie may Gardiner
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 21:23 »
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Thomas Gardiner
Age   66
Birth Date    24 Sep 1918
Death Registration    Nov 1984
Waltham Forest  Vol 15 p662



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Re: Elsie may Gardiner
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 22:08 »
Is anything known about Thomas Gardiner,

There's also a chance that she was cremated.

I found nothing in the newspapers about her death and nothing on Findawill.
all that is known about Thomas is that during the ww2 is that he was stationed on Anglesey  possibly you ty croes camp...then move to London area and worked for the gpo ...sorry for the sketchy info

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Re: Elsie may Gardiner
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 23:08 »
Possible?

Thomas Gardiner
Age   66
Birth Date    24 Sep 1918
Death Registration    Nov 1984
Waltham Forest  Vol 15 p662

Possible baptism he has same dob

Thomas Gardiner
Birth 24 Sep 1918
Baptism 27 Oct 1918 Walthamstow, St Saviour, Formerly St James, Essex
Father    Frederick Gardiner Mother   Agnes

Added Dec 1918  Gardiner    Thomas   mn George W.Ham    4a   540    

1921 census family living in Walthamstow
Thomas Gardiner b1918 Walthamstow, Essex

1911 Street Address   64 Talbot Road, Isleworth
Frederick Gardiner 34 Head occ  Telegraph Lineman G P O Engineering Department
Agnes Gardiner   29   Wife
Ethel Mary Gardiner 6 Daughter
Alice May Gardiner 4 Daughter
Frederick Ronald Gardiner 4 mths Son

Parents marriage entry

Registration Quarter   Apr-May-Jun 1904
Registration District   Edmonton Middlesex Volume   3a Page   989
Frederick Gardiner
Other names on same page
Agnes Rodgers George
Hugh John Hughes
Margaret Ellen Owen

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Frederick Gardiner Pension Age   60
Record Type   Pension
Birth Date   13 Jun 1876
Other Appointment Date   1 Jan 1935
Appointment Place   City of London, United Kingdom
Employment Start Date   16 May 1901
Pension Date   1936
Occupation   Skilled Workman Class II
Employer   UK Post Office
Work Place   Engineering Department, Post Office
UK, Royal Mail Pension and Gratuity Records, 1834-1970

Frederick Gardiner
Born  13 June 1876
Baptism Date   16 Jun 1876 Saint Mary, Hornsey: Cranley Gardens, Haringey
Father   Frederick Gardiner occ Alexander Palace Game keeper
Mother   Emma abode 1 The Don Cottage







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Re: Elsie may Gardiner
« Reply #13 on: Today at 07:19 »
The daughter named married a mr Williams and FindMyPast has 2008-16 electoral register of her living in frinton on sea Essex

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Re: Elsie may Gardiner
« Reply #14 on: Today at 09:38 »

A little more
1939 6 Somers Road, Wanstead and Woodford.Essex
Frederick Gardiner married b 13 June 1876
Telephone lines man retired.
Maud A Gardiner b 14 June 1888.

No sign of Thomas Gardiner.

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Re: Elsie may Gardiner
« Reply #15 on: Today at 09:41 »
It's possible that Marella Frances was named after a sister born as below

OWENS, MARELLA  FRANCIS     WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1908  J Quarter in HOLYHEAD  Volume 11B  Page 497
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OWENS, MARELLA  FRANCES     aged 9 
GRO Reference: 1918  S Quarter in HOLYHEAD  Volume 11B  Page 574

This Marella appears with mother Jane and siblings in 1911 census in Holyhead.

Think Jane Williams married George Stephen Owen in 1893--he was a mariner. Suspect he was not around in 1921 when the other Marella is born with mmn Owens.

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added the 1921 gro birth cert for £3 would confirm