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Re: John and Elizabeth Mary coward
« Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 16:36 »
I was getting confused then with the ‘ two wives’
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« Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 16:44 »
That John Coward has a father also John, who is a farmer so he does not fit with the one we are searching.
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« Reply #20 on: Yesterday at 16:50 »
How have you established that the John that married Mary Jane Grigg had a father John?

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Re: John and Elizabeth Mary coward
« Reply #21 on: Yesterday at 16:59 »
The marriage record is available online - Ancestry.  I thought you had seen it, sorry.
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« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 17:08 »
Thanks for clarifying - I don't subscribe to A*.

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Re: John and Elizabeth Mary coward
« Reply #23 on: Yesterday at 17:51 »
John Coward, 27 yrs, bachelor, Mariner,13 Breck Road, Everton - father John - Farmer deceased.
Mary Jane Grigg.
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Re: John and Elizabeth Mary coward
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 18:28 »
John Coward, 27 yrs, bachelor, Mariner,13 Breck Road, Everton - father John - Farmer deceased.
Mary Jane Grigg.
Thanks.
I struggled with the address on the '68 licence, considering "13 Brick Road, Buck Road ...etc". I see from above it was 13 Breck Rd.

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Re: John and Elizabeth Mary coward
« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 19:58 »
Was Elizabeth pregnant at the time of the marriage?  That could be a reason to “do the right thing” but didn’t work out long term.

Who were the witnesses to that marriage please?

It was a 5th October marriage in 1863 and their daughter was born July 26th 1864. So looks like she fell pregnant very quickly but unlikely to have been pregnant (or if she was wouldn’t of known)

There are no witnesses listed

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Re: John and Elizabeth Mary coward
« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 20:06 »
John's 1863 marriage licence/bond appears under "Cheshire Marriage Licence bonds" The form reads "aged .......... and upwards" and "21 years" has been entered in the space provided. This has been transcribed as "born 1842" which does not reflect his 1831 baptism (opening post).



Are you able to read John’s address from the marriage bond? I can’t quite work it out, I see Elizabeth’s is rice street which is where she grew up and where her daughter Hannah was living with her grandmother in the 1871 census