brick wall , Help !

[Forfarian]

One question  .. is Grizzle another name for Grace ? as I found it on Ancestry .

Yes.

Grace is used interchangeably with Grizel, which can be spelled in several ways including Grizzle.

You are wise to be wary of information found on Ancestry, but in this case it is correct. Always be sure to check the original document to verify anything you find on Ancestry, especially other people's trees. The source of the vast majority of original Scottish records is www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

[Forfarian]

Helen was born  in Kirkcudbrightshire 1771 and died 21/06/1844 .

If your source for Helen's date of birth is her age in the 1841 census, be aware that in 1841 adults' ages were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest 5 years, so a person aged 60 could have been born any time between 7 8 June 1766 and 7 June 1771, assuming their age is accurate.

And just because there is only one possible candidate in the surviving indexes does not mean that it is necessarily the right person because large numbers of records, if they ever existed, have not survived.

[ColC]

There are 2 other children on F/S.Org, Father as Henry HAW**, Mother Helen COWAN;
JANET 1800 and ANDREW 1803 Moffatt

Trish

On SP 3/07/1803

ANDREW HAW
HENRY HAW/HELEN COWAN
842 10 / 321 Moffat

JANET HAW 5/10/1800
HENRY HAW/HELEN COWAN
842 10 / 309 Moffat

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[ColC]

Possible birth/baptism on SP.

HELEN COWAN 29/07/1769 Hutton and Corrie, Dumfriesshire
ANDREW COWAN/ father

Marriage
ANDREW COWAN to JANET SMITH
19/12/1757 Hutton and Corrie

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[Blairvadach]

Was this Grace’s death details
31 July 1876
Bankshill Terrace Lockerbie, Dumfrieshire

[Blairvadach]

There’s a Henry Hall in the 1841 census that could be him….

Agriculture labourer aged 60
Address was Hunterhouse Stable in Tinwald, Dumfriesshire
Did he die in November 1841?
Cheers

[suzi600]

Thank you yet again , I will be sorting the information out you have given me . I am very grateful to you all .
 I saw the Henry Hall in 1841 census at Tinwald (thanks Blairvadach) , not much of a distance from Lohmaben . Grizzzle/Grace Hall with siblings etc. I need to check out so will be occupied for a time 

[ColC]

Just for information there are two census returns in 1841. Transcripts on Freecen.

Hunterhouse Stable, Tinwald, Tinwald.

Henry HALL M 60 Agricultural Labourer, Dumfriesshire
William BELL M 20 Agricultural Labourer, Dumfriesshire

Hunter House, Tinwald, Lochmaben. Which you mentioned in one of your posts.

Henry HALL M 60 Agricultural Labourer Dumfriesshire
William BELL M 25 Agricultural Labourer Dumfriesshire

Originals on SP.
HENRY HALL 1841 M 60 Lochmaben, Dumfries

HENRY HALL 1841 M 60 Tinwald Dumfries

It might also be worth checking this family?

1841 Craighousesteads,  Tundergarth

Henry HALL M 94 Out of County
Thomas HALL M 55 Agricultural Labourer Dumfriesshire
Helen SCOTT F 55 Female Servant Dumfriesshire
Jean MCKENZIE F 15 Female Servant Dumfriesshire

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