brick wall , Help !

[suzi600]

I am looking for any information at all concerning Henry Hall. I have nothing but a marriage  for him . He wed Helen Cowan in the parish of Applegarth and Sibbaldbie , Dumfries 25/08/1799 . Helen was born  in Kirkcudbrightshire 1771 and died 21/06/1844 . They had a daughter called Grace born in Lochmaben 1808 _ 1876

[Milliepede]

What information does the marriage give for him?  No fathers name or occupation or age?

Anything about him on his daughters birth other than his name?

[CaroleW]

Is he on the 1841 census? 

[trish1120]

I can only see a BETSY 1808 and GRIZEL 1806 to Henry HALL and Nelly COWAN

1841 Census has Helen born Dumfriesshire.

1841 Census
Lochmaben
John Hurburn   34
Helen Cowan   60
Grace Thorburn   34
Henry Thorburn   8
Jean Thorburn   5
Mary Thorburn   3
Hellen Thorburn   2

I think someone has the 1841 Census for another Helen Cowan, Female Servant born Kirkcudbright


There are 2 other children on F/S.Org, Father as Henry HAW**, Mother Helen COWAN;
JANET 1800 and ANDREW 1803 Moffatt

Trish

[suzi600]

Thank you all for the replies ,they are much appreciated . Henry Hall is not on the 1841 census ,only his wife and children as found by trish1120 . The marriage from Scotland`s people  says wed at Applegarth, Dumfriesshire with no parents names .

[Forfarian]

The marriage from Scotland`s people  says wed at Applegarth, Dumfriesshire with no parents names .

It's very unusual for a church marriage record to give the names of the couple's parents. In some parishes the name of the bride's father is sometimes recorded, and very rarely, if the groom's father was a prominent citizen, you might get his name. I have never seen a pre-1855 church record that gives the name of either of the couple's mothers.

[ColC]

Possible birth/baptism on SP.

HELEN COWAN 29/07/1769 Hutton and Corrie, Dumfriesshire
ANDREW COWAN/ father

Colin

[trish1120]

That looks very possible Colin.
Andrew also christens a JAMES 1 Apr 1759

Looking at James his wife seems to be a Isabella HALL

James is on 1841 Census age 80

Buried
Sibbaldbie Old Churchyard
Burial or Cremation Place   Applegarth Town, Dumfries and Galloway
Death Date 2 Dec. 1844 age 83/84
Spouse Isabella Hall Cowan Death  May 1825 age 65/66
In memory of Isabella Hall, spouse of James Cowan, tennant in Gall, who died 11th May 1825 aged 66 years. Also the said James Cowan who died 2 December 1844 aged 84.

Just found it a coincidence as siblings often married siblings.

So possible???

[suzi600]

Thanks again for the replies , I did manage to get a Henry Hall born 1777 in Lochmaben and died there in 1841 . One question  .. is Grizzle another name for Grace ? as I found it on Ancestry .

The big picture for this one is trying to find a connection between Henry Hall the Covenanter who died 1680 and Henry Hall born 1777. I know it`s a big gap but one of the aunts is certain there is a connection .