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Offline overlandermatt

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Re: Missing John Pope in 1841 census
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 07 January 26 18:30 GMT (UK) »
A few trees seem to have Charlotte born in 1809 although she is the same age as John in later census entries.

I didn't find any other children between William and John. I did wonder whether John was baptised after a delay. There was a small gap between John and the next child, George.

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Re: Missing John Pope in 1841 census
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 07 January 26 19:56 GMT (UK) »
"I didn't find any other children between William and John. I did wonder whether John was baptised after a delay. There was a small gap between John and the next child, George. "

Yes, I've just noticed that: William baptised in 1839 at Bridgwater to John and Charlotte - John's occupation is 'labourer'.
Then John was baptised in the same church at the end of March 1844 to John, who is now a 'farrier', and Charlotte.
Subsequently George was baptised 25th August of the same year to John and Charlotte. John is now a sawyer.
All the same family? John baptised late for some reason - very likely I think.

No time to look at more for the moment.
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Re: Missing John Pope in 1841 census
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 January 26 09:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Teragram.

I've not got a great deal to add but I tend to think it is the same family. John Pope's father William was a sawyer in Langport so finding him as a sawyer in later life has been helpful.

10000 names in the Bridgwater census I noticed... 

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Re: Missing John Pope in 1841 census
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 January 26 15:30 GMT (UK) »
The Pope family  are proving very elusive on 1841 census  :(

I tried again using FreeCEN to see if I could find John, Charlotte & William on the 1841 census in Bridgwater Somerset as that was the abode given on the 1839 baptism record for their son William

Did not use their surname Pope on the off chance it had been very badly transcribed

Persons named John born 1801 - 1815 there are 220 hits
Persons named Charlotte born c1801 - 1816 there are 37 hits
Persons named William born c 1838 - 1841 there are 157 hits
 :( NONE have the surname POPE or anything similar that I could see I'm afraid :-\

There is this Pope family with same names but John's occupation is not a match neither is their pob, posting details just to rule out

1841 Piece 257
Folio   16
Page number   26
Civil parish   Holsworthy
Hundred   Black Torrington
County/Island   Devon

John Pope 25 >>>>>>not born in this county Shoem
Charlotte Pope   30
William Pope 7 Mo

looks as if William has middle name Richard on 1851 census

Piece   1896
Folio   188
Page number   9
Civil parish   Holsworthy
Hundred   Black Torrington
County/Island   Devon

John Pope 36 Head Cornwall Shoem
Charlotte Pope   42   Wife Devon Holsworthy
William Ricd Pope 10 Son.  ditto
Andrew Pope 5 Son
Mary Elizth Pope 2 Daughter
John Pope 2 Mo Son

As mentioned getting the birth certificate for William may not be of any help if it just gives residence Bridgwater as per William's 1839 baptism record  :-\

Have you located both John Pope & Charlotte (nee Lock) parents/siblings on the 1841 census?

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