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Re: Isle of Man miners in North West Durham
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 01 January 26 15:40 GMT (UK) »
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The works mentioned in that article were the streets, pavements, road surfaces, drains etc.  I think drains would not normally be a major factor but if all these streets were left undrained the water might flow straight down and cause damage to the railway lines and embankments.

All the actual houses were built by that time so 1895 has to be the starting point.

If you look at that map, Laxey Street was the one short street running at right angles to the others and a couple of houses on the opposite side of the road.  All of it is now demolished and has a supermarket and a car park over it.

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I was drawn to the expression " ... in the formation of ..." - it's the earliest newspaper mention of Laxey St. Thanks for clarifying its location.

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Re: Isle of Man miners in North West Durham
« Reply #10 on: Friday 02 January 26 23:59 GMT (UK) »
As pointed out by JenB and AlanBoyd, I have not been able to find out any direct connection between Manx workers in the Stanley area and the Manx names of these streets.  I tried to check the street and mine owner's connections with tin, lead, copper and zinc mining in the Isle of Man but nothing came up.  In itself, that was frustrating!

But to find an independently owned beerhouse called "The Isle of Man" right next to them was just too much of a coincidence.  I don't understand the connection at the moment - but there must be one.  So, it's back to the drawing board!

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Re: Isle of Man miners in North West Durham
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 03 January 26 09:48 GMT (UK) »
It may simply be that someone was trying to choose a name for a new public house, and picked up on the theme of the surrounding street names.

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Re: Isle of Man miners in North West Durham
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 03 January 26 11:21 GMT (UK) »
An "Isle of Man" is marked on the '57/61 map - but not identified as either a "P(ublic) H(ouse)" or "B(eer) H(ouse)" -
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341512#zoom=5.8&lat=4990&lon=5611&layers=BT

A "P(ublic) H(ouse)" is marked on this '95/98 map (previously posted) but is unnamed -
https://maps.nls.uk/view/120935022#zoom=4.7&lat=9654&lon=4146&layers=BT

It's location would appear to mirror the earlier map "Isle of Man" location.
The street names, perhaps, reflect the long term presence of the name "Isle of Man" in the locale - which introduces the conundrum "Why does the name appear as early as '57?"


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Re: Isle of Man miners in North West Durham
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 03 January 26 12:27 GMT (UK) »
An "Isle of Man" is marked on the '57/61 map - but not identified as either a "P(ublic) H(ouse)" or "B(eer) H(ouse)" -
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341512#zoom=5.8&lat=4990&lon=5611&layers=BT

I notice that there is a Havanah just along the road.
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon

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Re: Isle of Man miners in North West Durham
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 03 January 26 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Finding reference points on the 2 maps posted proved difficult to link "Isle of Man" and "PH".
I followed the '57/61 Shieldrow Waggonway that runs north south and which doglegs south west when it reaches "Isle of Man". A similar dogleg appears on the '95/98 map near the unnamed "PH".

Is "Havanah" the unnamed inn on Front Street, '95/98?

Two sightings of "Isle of Man"
1. Newcastle Courant, 4 Oct 1850
2. Durham County Advertiser, 2 Oct 1857


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Re: Isle of Man miners in North West Durham
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 03 January 26 13:11 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Isle of Man miners in North West Durham
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 03 January 26 13:27 GMT (UK) »
At Durham Records Online there are 20 baptisms for Tanfield St Margaret where the abode is 'Isle of Man'. The earliest is 1805, and the most recent is 1850.  In these records the fathers' occupations are labourer, banksman, pitman.

The main group of baptisms starts in 1829 and the recurring names are Armstrong, Hunter, Wilson, Shield and Peacock.
 
e.g. 31 January 1841, William Newrick Shield, of Isle of Man, son of William (pitman) and Elizabeth Shield.

In the 1841 census the enumerator's route is:
Shield Row [many households]
Havannah [6 households]
Isle of Man [3 households]
South Moor [many households]

For 'Isle of Man' the heads of household are
John Armstrong, 43, banksman, born in county
William Shield, 40, coal miner, born in county
Thomas Davidson, 40, ag lab, born Ireland
(the total headcount for Isle of Man residents is 26; there are several others lodging with these three large familes)

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In the 1851 census it is recorded as "Isle o' Man", with three households:
George Robinson, 46, coal miner
Thomas Peacock, 27 ag lab
Robert Anderson, 50, coal miner
all born Co. Durham
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Re: Isle of Man miners in North West Durham
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 03 January 26 13:50 GMT (UK) »
The title of the article is "STANLEY & THE DRINK TRAFFIC"
Consett Guardian, 31 July 1891