Burial of WILLIAM OLIVER SIMMONDS or SYMONDS, Newcastle Upon Tyne, 1812

[GeoffTurner]

Mother Elizabeth Hannah Thompson (nee Dunn) 1887-1917
Father George William Thompson 1880-1967
Children
Elsie Millward Thompson 1909-1976
Olive Thompson 1911-2000
John Millward Thompson 1914-2006
Stanley Thompson 1917-1994.

The mother died on 1 Dec 1917 following the birth of Stanley on 8 Oct 1917 and the family story is that she died in childbirth (or apparently from the complications). I don't have a registered cause of death. I am relying on family members' recollections and research to put that together (with some family photos) but I would like to get some documents to prove the details are correct.

[mckha489]

Ok, so that one I found is correct. Just no Millward.  He must have added that for effect when he was older 😀

They are at 9, Elm Street, Chester Le Street, Durham, England
And two younger children to new wife.

[GeoffTurner]

Millward is a family name and occurs frequently down the years. They might just not have bothered including that in the registration. Would the "Dec" refer to the December quarter, and the 11 Nov birthdate might be correct?

[mckha489]

Millward is a family name and occurs frequently down the years. They might just not have bothered including that in the registration. Would the "Dec" refer to the December quarter, and the 11 Nov birthdate might be correct?

Yes, it is the December quarter. You could always buy the digital download of the birth to confirm

[GeoffTurner]

Yes, I see that now. Silly question. The same applies to the Stanley Thompson birth.

In Australia it is possible to get a digital death certificate showing cause of death. Does that apply in the UK as well. Would I get that from the Archives?  (I am thinking of the mother's death.)

[GeoffTurner]

I have four children by the first wife. What can you find about younger children and a new wife?

[GeoffTurner]

I don't get access to the 1921 census, just the older ones. And the 1939 pre-war headcount.

[mckha489]

Gladys   Thompson   Daughter   Female   1919   1   Chester Le Street, Durham, England   -   -
Norman   Thompson   Son   Male   1920   -   Chester Le Street, Durham, England   -   -
May   Aiken   Step-daughter   Female   1912   9   Chester Le Street, Durham, England

Wife is
Hannah   Thompson   Wife   Female   1887   34   Washington, Durham, England   Home Duties, At Home

So this marriage.

Marriages Dec 1918   (>99%)

Thompson    George W    Hannah Aitken    Chester-le-S.    10a   952    
Births of Gladys and a Roman suggest her maiden name is something like Woodmass

So that narrows down the death for wife 1 considerably.  I am having trouble finding it

You can order births and deaths from the GRO site as digital downloads for £3. Unfortunately not marriages. Will hunt for other evidence for that,

Added…possibly the surname is Woodmansey

[mckha489]

A tree on Ancestry has Elizabeth Hannah's death as 1 Dec 1917
There is a photo of grave stone.