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You gotta see 'Dis Dick' on burial record!
« on: Tuesday 30 December 25 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Any help deciphering the words/meaning of what is written in the third entry of this burial record?

My only guess at the moment is some version of 'sic' since the name is identical to the record preceding it. But it really does look like 'dis dick'

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Re: You gotta see 'Dis Dick' on burial record!
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 06:53 »
Have you found him on the census?.

The name above his is also David Edwards are they father and son?

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Re: You gotta see 'Dis Dick' on burial record!
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 07:27 »
I am only guessing but the first word "dis" might be like AKA Dick.
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Re: You gotta see 'Dis Dick' on burial record!
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 09:44 »
Was his father Richard/Dick?
I am thinking of the Irish custom of distinguishing between people of the same name by including their father‘s name, e.g. I have Thomas (Pat) and Thomas (Andy).
Perhaps there is something similar in Welsh?
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Re: You gotta see 'Dis Dick' on burial record!
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 14:11 »
I am only guessing but the first word "dis" might be like AKA Dick.
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I think dis is short for the latin dictus, meaning said or called
So you're right. This David was known as Dick.

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Re: You gotta see 'Dis Dick' on burial record!
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 22:19 »
Thank you everyone!
Update. I have found this man's baptism record. Not only was his father's name Richard, but the same 'Dis Dick' appears on his baptism.

'Dictus Dick' not only seems most likely but is somehow even more amusing.

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Re: You gotta see 'Dis Dick' on burial record!
« Reply #6 on: Today at 17:25 »
Just wondering if its DIO not DIS. Dio is a name that does appear in Wales in medieval times. It is recorded in many welsh pedigrees. AI gives the following:

"ap Dio" appears in various Welsh pedigrees, as "Dio" (likely a shortened form of a name like Deio, a diminutive of Dafydd) was a common patronymic element in medieval and early modern Wales.

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Re: You gotta see 'Dis Dick' on burial record!
« Reply #7 on: Today at 18:34 »
I agree that it's gotta be something else, why would he have a nickname or alias at the time of his baptism?

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Re: You gotta see 'Dis Dick' on burial record!
« Reply #8 on: Today at 18:57 »
Thanks Ray & Pat
I agree that there are other possibilities. The burial record could be 'Dio Dick' as in 'Deio/Dafydd Dick' as in 'David son of Richard.' but why that would be written at all is harder to explain than why an alias would be written 'David known as Dick/Richard.'
The baptism record could read 'Dio Dick' or even 'Dio Deck.' But we are faced with the same dilemma.
The annotation seems to be made simultaneously with his burial record but later than the baptism record. This might be explained by the likelihood that nicknames come later than baptisms.

If his name was David but was known by all as Dick after his Father Richard, this would make simplest sense of what we find except for the fact that it is written in abbreviated Latin (I don't know how common that might have been).
If it is Dio Dick/Dio Deck it would be harder to explain.