John Orme 1827-1885

[pampoen]

I think what Ratty2 is saying is:
John Orme died in 1885.
Fred Orme married 1897.
At some stage John travelled to South Africa.
Question is, did he die there? Appears one Frederick James Orme died in Natal in 1913.
DEPOT     NAB                                                                   
SOURCE    1/LDS                                                                 
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 3/4/1/3                                                               
SYSTEM    03                                                                   
REFERENCE L2879/19/13                                                           
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          COURTS DEPARTMENT: TESTATE ESTATE OF FREDERICK JOHN ORME.             
STARTING  19130000                                                             
ENDING    19130000

[pampoen]

DEPOT     NAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MSCE                                                                 
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 4251/1918                                                             
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          ORME, JOHN. SSP ORME, ELIZA JANE (BORN WELCH).                       
STARTING  1918                                                                 
ENDING    1919

[pampoen]

This maybe a relation https://www.graves.eggsa.org/kwazulunatal/DBN-SOUTH/stellawood/O%20-%20Surnames%20__%20Vanne%20-%20O/ors/DSC02845.JPG

[pampoen]

Or these https://www.graves.eggsa.org/kwazulunatal/DBN-SOUTH/stellawood/O%20-%20Surnames%20__%20Vanne%20-%20O/ors/DSC02847%20-%20Jane%20Smart%20Orme%20died%207%20June%201983.JPG

[Ratty2]

Thank you everyone for clarifying my muddled and mistaken and erroneous first entry.
So we now know that John Orme was born at Seymour, Aus 1865, married Eliza Welch 1897 at Heidelberg, Vic; had three children incl Amy, Clifford and Ernest.
John and his wife migrated to Durban, SA in 1902 as an engineer. At some point they returned to Victoria Australia where John died in 1918, but his Probate is in Durban 1919.
Ernest Wheeley, their son, stayed in SA, married Jane Smart there and had children. He died 1967 and his wife Jane died in 1987

Have I got that correct so far?

Thank you

[Neale1961]

Ratty, Be sure to view John Orme's FULL Estate File for all the detail.
There are 3 pages.
You need to use the arrow on the right side to turn the pages
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLR2-1XHQ?lang=en

[Neale1961]

There is also a large military file for John Orme at the Australian National Archives. (71 pages)
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Gallery151/dist/JGalleryViewer.aspx?B=7996978&S=2&N=71&R=0#/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=7996978&T=P&S=1

[Ratty2]

Thanks Neale, yes got the 3 pages. Will do the military file later today.

Appreciate your time

[Ratty2]

Thanks pampeo
Yes looks like descendants, will check it later.
Appreciate your help