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Re: I may be asking the impossible
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 27 December 25 19:01 GMT (UK) »
@Lodger is there online access to the Poor Books for the area ? (I have other ones where they might be helpful)

The Poor Relief applications for North Lanarkshire are on Ancestry.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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« Reply #28 on: Saturday 27 December 25 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant :) Thank you! A good nosey I shall have :)
Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-

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Re: I may be asking the impossible
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 27 December 25 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ann,

Can you fit any of these 3 into your Stewart family?

ADAM MAIR, died February 1889 aged 57 years.
ALEXANDER STEWART, died August 1895 aged 7 months.
ALEXANDER STEWART, died November 1898 aged 52 years.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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« Reply #30 on: Saturday 27 December 25 20:05 GMT (UK) »
I can  :)

Adam Mair married Janet Stewart. They are my 3 x gts. Janet's dad is Alexander Stewart (He's the Thornbush one). And then of course his father who was married to Jane Walker.

The second Alexander Stewart in your list is Janet's younger brother - son of Alexander (Thornbush)

The first, can't see him in my tree. It's possible he was Jane's nephew. I've not checked out her siblings kids yet
Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-


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« Reply #31 on: Saturday 27 December 25 20:14 GMT (UK) »
It's Alexander Stewart born in 1814's parents BMD info I'm looking for.
Yes, I get that, but I've found the witnesses to baptisms in some other parishes useful, so I was clutching at that straw.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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« Reply #32 on: Saturday 27 December 25 20:16 GMT (UK) »
I get you :) Unfortunately the parish clerk who recorded them was a bit minimalist :(
Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-

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« Reply #33 on: Saturday 27 December 25 21:03 GMT (UK) »
I can  :)

Adam Mair married Janet Stewart. They are my 3 x gts. Janet's dad is Alexander Stewart (He's the Thornbush one). And then of course his father who was married to Jane Walker.

The second Alexander Stewart in your list is Janet's younger brother - son of Alexander (Thornbush)

The first, can't see him in my tree. It's possible he was Jane's nephew. I've not checked out her siblings kids yet

BINGO!!!

The Alexander who died in 1865 is, for a reason we probably will never know, buried in a pauper's grave in the cemetery BUT, his son Alexander is recorded in the gravedigger's day book thus -

"Alexander Stewart, miner, Alicia Bank Orchard, aged 62 years, widower.
Parents - Alexander Stewart and Jane Walker.
Interred in the old churchyard on 9th July 1877".

There is a Plot Book for the churchyard but it only begins about 1878, so just misses the above Alexander. However, there is a Stewart family plot in that book with three post-1878 deaths recorded, Adam Mair and the two other Alexander Stewarts.
So, we now have the correct Stewart family resting place AND, I have the transcript of a headstone which probably doesn't exist any more. (I will have a look when the weather clears).

This is the transcription -

"Erected by Alexander Steurt and Jean Steurt in memory of their daughter Jean who died 17th March 1838 aged 1 year."

Is this your Alexander Stewart and Jean Walker? Or, an earlier generation?
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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« Reply #34 on: Saturday 27 December 25 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Oh! That's fantastic!

You're a mega star  :D

Thank you so much!
Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-

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« Reply #35 on: Saturday 27 December 25 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Jean is the daughter of Mr Thornbush. She died as a baby. They re-used the name with the next one

Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland <br />Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)<br />McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk<br />Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire <br />Torrance - Brisbane<br />Connolly , Robertson- NSW<br />McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-