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I may be asking the impossible
« on: Saturday 27 December 25 07:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi

20+ years researching my lot never got an answer to this one so it got put on the 'Go back and look later' pile. Having looked again still none the wiser.

My gtx 5 grandpa (Alexander Stewart but baptised Steuart) was born 2/3/1791 in Cambusnethan. He was the illegitmate son of John Steuart and Betty Morton. Both were had up before the Kirk sessions for a sound public telling off so that part is confirmed. They never married.

What I'm looking for is some help/tips to find both John and Betty's BMD certs.

Because it's so far back, may just not be there.

I'm trying to close some things off where stuff just isn't there and is never going to be but would welcome some other pairs of eyes just to check I'm not missing something dead obvious.

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Ann
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Re: I may be asking the impossible
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 December 25 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Ann,

   Hi, you do not give much to go on.
   Obviously unlikely to live to the point of certs, but stranger things have happened!
   There do not seem to be many St*r*t deaths in Cambusnethan, but they may have moved.
   What trace do you have of Alexander?
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Re: I may be asking the impossible
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 December 25 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have Alexander's baptism. Born Cambusnethan 2/3/ 1791 but baptised in Carluke 28/7/1791. I have the Kirk Session records confirming John Steuart eventually accepted responsibility.

Alexander died 21/5/1865. I have his death cert. He died in Cambusnethan.

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Re: I may be asking the impossible
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 December 25 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ann,

I can confirm that Alex was interred in Cambusnethan cemetery, the entry in the gravedigger's day book is -

"ALEXANDER STEWART, pauper, married, Newmains. Parent - Elizabeth Morton (domestic servant).
Interred in public ground, 23rd May 1865".

Not much I'm afraid. If you can list his parents I can check for a burial place for them too.

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Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
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Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.


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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 December 25 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lodger

Elizabeth Morton was his mum and his dad was John Steuart. I don't have any more info about them at present :(

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Ann
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 December 25 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ann,

Yes, I see by your original post who his parents were but, his burial record only records his mother and her occupation.
Was his birth recorded in the parish of Cambusnethan or in Carluke? I don't see anything in the Cambusnethan Session records for 1791.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: I may be asking the impossible
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 27 December 25 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi

His baptism is recorded in Carluke. It says born 2nd March Cambusnethan and baptised 28th July 1791. His mum was a domestic servant in Cambusnethan (according to Kirk session minutes).

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Ann
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Re: I may be asking the impossible
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 December 25 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Ann,

   Hi have you got him in all the Census records?
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 December 25 10:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Up until 1861 , yes. 1851 and 1861 confirm him as Cambusnethan. I have his info. It's his parents info I'm looking for

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Ann
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