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John Robertson of Knockando
« on: Friday 26 December 25 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
I am looking for help with John Robertson who married Girsel Roy on October 25 1783 They had 3 kids Alexander 1786, Isabel 1787,Thomas 1789. Girsel could also be grizel or even Grace
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Re: John Robertson of Knockando
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 December 25 07:41 GMT (UK) »
Exactly what help do you need?
If you are clearer in what you are looking for, time will not be wasted finding information that you already have.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John Robertson of Knockando
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 December 25 07:53 GMT (UK) »
They had 3 kids Alexander 1786, Isabel 1787,Thomas 1789.

First son baptised -

JAMES ROBERTSON
parents - JOHN ROBERTSON / GRIZEL ROY
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09/09/1784
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Forres
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John Robertson of Knockando
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 December 25 09:44 GMT (UK) »
As Knockando is in Morayshire (not Aberdeenshire), there could be something in https://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu%2Easp - there are a couple of burials of John Robertsons.

I see that Alexander and Isabel were also baptised in Forres (which is also in Morayshire); only Thomas in Knockando. Have you seen Thomas' original baptism record? Does it say where in Knockando the family lived?

Does the marriage record tell you anything useful?
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Re: John Robertson of Knockando
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 December 25 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Do you have this information?

Marriage record and baptisms of children give this information -
John Robertson in Broomhill in the Parish of Forres, Grizel Roy of the same parish
Other mentions of place have  “Broomhill of Bards yards ”

One of the witnesses at James baptism was Isobel Roy in Knockando.

Baptism of Thomas 1789, son of John Robertson and Grizal Roy in Ballin Thian(?).
One of the witnesses was Thomas Robertson in Milton.

Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John Robertson of Knockando
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 December 25 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Other mentions of place have  “Broomhill of Bards yards ”
That's going to be Burdsyards, also known as Burdshaugh. See https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.7&lat=57.60647&lon=-3.61917&layers=257&b=ESRIWorld&o=100 but I'm not sure exactly where Broomhill of Burdshaugh/Burdsyards was.

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Baptism of Thomas 1789, son of John Robertson and Grizal Roy in Ballin Thian(?).
Can you post the extract with this name on it?

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One of the witnesses was Thomas Robertson in Milton.
Milton of Knockando still exists. See https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/5718621
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Re: John Robertson of Knockando
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 December 25 23:15 GMT (UK) »

Baptism of Thomas 1789, son of John Robertson and Grizal Roy in Ballin Thian(?).
Can you post the extract with this name on it?

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Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John Robertson of Knockando
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 December 25 08:30 GMT (UK) »
the Th in "Thian" is written quite differently from the Th in "Thomas"
Fraser - Inverness-shire, Moray
Gammie - Banffshire
Davidson - Aberdeenshire
Hay, Innes, Taylor, Shand - Moray
Mitchell, Ross, Skinner, Duff - Ross-shire
MacKenzie - Ross-shire/ Lothians
Young - Stirling
Patience, MacPherson, Smith, Davidson - Inverness-shire

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Re: John Robertson of Knockando
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 December 25 12:19 GMT (UK) »
Ballintean anyone, it’s quite a way across the hills, but …

Or more likely a variant on Ballintomb? Much closer at hand.
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