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Re: Joseph Gratton's will, 1829, d 1830. A few questions.
« Reply #18 on: Friday 26 December 25 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello Molly and oldohiohome

Correct me if I am wrong, are some of the attached snippets parts of the Will that we are dealing with (snippets of the first 4 images for identification) attached?

This Will on f m p, the images in sequence came under the:- Dioceses of Lichfield and Coventry Wills and Probate and Indexed as Barlow, Derbyshire, England.

You will also see on the outer Chest: [for Chesterfield] T[estator] Josi Gratton Barlow

Added: The next piece - Probate Granted at Chesterfield 15th April 1830.

The Testator's address was according to the Will Joseph Gratton of Brendwood Gate in the Parish of Great Barlow and in the County of Derby.

Is the Will?

I hope you will find the listing for the Inland Revenue (the attachments of the Index) in my previous reply appear to be a match?

The address came under the County of Derby and the Registry of the Will was at Lichfield.

Mark


Added: I deliberately put the attachment titles on in my earlier reply, so that hopefully they slide together and hopefully you will see the Court column was Lichfield.

Don't worry I would rather someone check thoroughly (if they have a doubt) before any money is spent.

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Re: Joseph Gratton's will, 1829, d 1830. A few questions.
« Reply #19 on: Friday 26 December 25 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Hello Molly and oldohiohome

Correct me if I am wrong, are some of the attached snippets parts of the Will that we are dealing with (snippets of the first 4 images for identification) attached?

Yes, the images you attached are the first two pages of the will I am asking about. Thank you for including them, they might be sharper images than the ones I have.

My transcription of it is now at
https://myoldohiohome.com/articles/1829-will-of-joseph-gratton-of-brendwood-gate-barlow-derbyshire.html

If it would have helped to link to my transcription at the beginning, I apologize, but I didn't have any trouble reading it, so I didn't include it.

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Re: Joseph Gratton's will, 1829, d 1830. A few questions.
« Reply #20 on: Friday 26 December 25 17:39 GMT (UK) »
A side question for anyone who has findmypast - Are the Derbyshire parish records on their site? I haven't found them on ancestry or familysearch, except, I think, for some of each site's transcriptions.

I think whoever maintains this tree at ancestry had access to the parish records, because they include exact dates of Joseph's children.

https://www.ancestrylibrary.com/family-tree/person/tree/44651986/person/342626636132/facts
which I think translates to
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/44651986/person/342626636132/facts

I know the records are available at the Derbyshire archives.

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Re: Joseph Gratton's will, 1829, d 1830. A few questions.
« Reply #21 on: Friday 26 December 25 18:00 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I saw your question as I had the warning of 2 replies when posting this reply.

Tried a quick Joseph Gratton search, No images on f m p.

However, there was a Joseph Gratton of Barlow marrying a Martha Parker 2nd January 1788 Dronfield Marriage (Printed Book only, which you may be able to find now online on Google Books etc., or on family search), but no Register images so you cannot see the witness signatures on this one, nor check the marriage image against the book for any printing errors.


Regarding the Inland Revenue Register
The one above for Benjamin Gratton (attachment previous thread page) has a note right hand end "Not Ent'd" so no entry for Benjamin in the Inland Revenue Register Book.

The entry for Joseph Gratton does seem to have a tick?

These are not like Manor Court records.

These were very summary notes (of varying diligence) recorded by officials at the Inland Revenue in Register Books about Wills (several or more Probates on one large Volume Opening separated by horizontal lines across both pages, with the Testator's name, brief address and a folio number).

Some have interesting summary notes of family or a property interest and some have little new information other than that which is in the Will.

Some even have notes about other people who married into the Testator's family before the death and some occasionally have a note/s beyond the death of the Testator, or few notes.


It is one of those situations that if I decide not to look at a document I won't know if it contains anything of interest or not.


However, this family history depends on your budget and some may say, well there is also a possibility of no new information, I don't think that amount is worth it.

Mark


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Re: Joseph Gratton's will, 1829, d 1830. A few questions.
« Reply #22 on: Friday 26 December 25 19:06 GMT (UK) »

However, there was a Joseph Gratton of Barlow marrying a Martha Parker 2nd January 1788 Dronfield Marriage (Printed Book only, which you may be able to find now online on Google Books etc., or on family search), but no Register images so you cannot see the witness signatures on this one, nor check the marriage image against the book for any printing errors.


Image is on FamilySearch http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u4y/

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Re: Joseph Gratton's will, 1829, d 1830. A few questions.
« Reply #23 on: Friday 26 December 25 21:11 GMT (UK) »
A good find - and Joseph signed his name - just - with a very blotty pen, but Martha did not.
Have been looking at Derbyshire Record Office catalogue which says "Available on www.ancestry.com" for both parishes but the Ancestry catalogue is not very clear about dates included.  Findmypast only lists transcripts.

The bride's residence is Bullclose, Dronfield, which is east and slightly north of Brandwoodgate; to the north of Monk Wood.

A little bit of info. about Barlow as a chapelry in Staveley parish.  Near Chesterfield, which would be the local market town.  Also the Duke of Rutland did not acquire this manor until 1813.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/Barlow/Lysons

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Re: Joseph Gratton's will, 1829, d 1830. A few questions.
« Reply #24 on: Friday 26 December 25 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all. besides the signature we pick up a John Parker as a witness.

Image is on FamilySearch http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u4y/
From that link I found the England, Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1537-1995, at familysearch and will start browsing the images of the Derbyshire book.