Ruby Gregory born 1905 Lambeth Where Was She in 1911 Census?

[Eyesee]

Births
ELVESTER, LOUISA        MULLENS     
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in FARNHAM  Volume 02A  Page 89

ELVESTER, MARIA        MULLEN     
GRO Reference: 1863  M Quarter in FARNHAM  Volume 02A  Page 74

Death
ELVESTER, MARIA        0 
GRO Reference: 1863  M Quarter in FARNHAM  Volume 02A  Page 49

ELVESTER, LUKE        47 
GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in FARNHAM  Volume 02A  Page 54

Ian C

[Eyesee]

St Mary's Athlone, Westmeath - image on Ancestry
1853 Sep 11
Mariam d/o Lucae ELVESTER and Susanna MULLINS

St Michael's Limerick
1857 Apr 11 - John, s/o Thos Luke and Susan ELVESTER
1859 Feb 12 - Susanna, d/o Luke and Susan
1861 Feb 27 - Margaret, d/o Luke and Susan

Ian C

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1871 Farnborough
Samuel Cox 48Head
Susan Cox 38Wife
John Eluester 13Stepson
Louisa Eluester 7Stepdaughter
)Maria Eluester1Stepdaughter

1881 2 Sand Street xx
Samuel Cock 50Head
Susan Cock 51Wife
Maria Cock11Daughter
J.W. Chester 24Boarder (actually John W. Elvester)
Louisa Elvester 17 Boarder

Florence Burnett Gregory died in 1879 in Sand Street.
I can see that you have worked this out.

Possibly going back  to Luke Elvester and Susan Mullins in Ireland.
It's quite confusing isn't it.

It's VERY confusing!! I have found baptisms for Luke and Susan's children Mary, John, Margaret and Susannah in Ireland and the marriage record for daughter Margaret Elvester stated that father Luke Elvester, deceased, was a soldier and armed with that, I was able to find his Chelsea Pensioner records that said he was born in Kidderminster, Worcestershire so off I went and found him in 1841 in Chatham Barracks.

Then, lo and behold, somehow I accidentally discovered that he was baptised as Luke ELVIS but by 1841, had changed his surname to ELVESTER 

NO birth registration for Maria Elvester born about 1869-1870 - of course Luke had died in 1866 so she wasn't his child -- records on FindMyPast which need subscription state there appear to have been 2 baptisms for her:

* Maria Elvester was baptised in 1871 at St Ludovics, Aldershot (record is part of British Armed Forces Roman Catholic Registers)
* Maria Elvester was baptised in 1873 at St Peter the Apostle RC Church in Woolwich, Kent.

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Births
ELVESTER, LOUISA        MULLENS     
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in FARNHAM  Volume 02A  Page 89

ELVESTER, MARIA        MULLEN     
GRO Reference: 1863  M Quarter in FARNHAM  Volume 02A  Page 74

Death
ELVESTER, MARIA        0 
GRO Reference: 1863  M Quarter in FARNHAM  Volume 02A  Page 49

ELVESTER, LUKE        47 
GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in FARNHAM  Volume 02A  Page 54

Ian C

Thanks for taking the time to share these -- these were the ones I found as well as the baptisms in Ireland for children of Luke and Susan.

[mckha489]

* Maria Elvester was baptised in 1871 at St Ludovics, Aldershot (record is part of British Armed Forces Roman Catholic Registers)
* Maria Elvester was baptised in 1873 at St Peter the Apostle RC Church in Woolwich, Kent.

The 1871 one is just a list. No info
The 1873 one lists mother as Susanna Elvester.
And a godfather Michael McAvoy. No god mother

Gives date of birth as 4th April 1869

[wilcoxon]

1891 Woolwich dockyard
Susan Cox 69 b Ireland hawker pedlar
Mary Cox 21 daughter b Woolwich laundress

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* Maria Elvester was baptised in 1873 at St Peter the Apostle RC Church in Woolwich, Kent.

The 1873 one lists mother as Susanna Elvester.
And a godfather Michael McAvoy. No god mother

Gives date of birth as 4th April 1869

Thanks SO much for checking these for me -- it's much appreciated!!

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1891 Woolwich dockyard
Susan Cox 69 b Ireland hawker pedlar
Mary Cox 21 daughter b Woolwich laundress

Thanks!! No matter how I've searched, can't find marriage or death for either of them after 1891 -- daughter Susan(na) appears to have died in 1932 in Dorset and son John W (William) Elvester never married but arrived in New York City in 1883 and died in 1945 in NY.

Although Louisa and Margaret Elvester both married, neither had any children. After 1881 Census, no appearances for Burnett or Mary Gregory or their children in other Census documents.

Possible daughters Adelaide Gregory and Clara Ann (Annie Clara) Gregory both had illegitimate daughters in 1905 at the same hospital in Clapham and both were baptised at All Saints in Lambeth.

[wilcoxon]

I've been dipping back and to  into this between the brandy , port and mince pies and this is all I can find, still a lot of unanswered questions.

How did Adelaide Gregory, who came from such an unstable background come to meet and marry Bateman Hutchinson.   Adelaide was supposedly in Lambeth  and unmarried in  November 1905 when daughter Ruby was born.
Bateman Hutchinson was single in April 1906 when he emigrated to Canada .

1901 Derby
Bateman Hutchinson 22
Birthplace   Newhall, Warwickshire
Occupation   FURNITURE MANUFACTURER

Immigration Event Date   Apr 1906   New York, United States
Bateman Hutchinson single 28 cab  ( cabinet )maker  Birthplace England
Arrival Port   New York, NY destination Victoria
Ship Name   Etruria

Index to Canadian Border Entries through the St. Albans, Vermont, District:   Date 8 / 24 / 16  ?
Bateman Huchinson 38 surveyor
Wife Ada Hutchinson  / ever in US YES From 1896 to 10 / 1896 passage paid by self   NOT FOUND

Immigration Bateman Hutchinson 38 Birth 1878 Birthplace   Canada ?
1916 Event Place   St. Albans, Franklin, Vermont, United States
 Nearest relative Wife Ada Hutchinson  Victoria

Victoria. Newspapers 1930–1932,
1930 Bateman Hutchinson obit, No mention of wife


Adelaide GREGORY the d/o Burnett and Mary was in British Columbia in Canada by 1931 as she married at Victoria as Adelaide HUTCHINSON a widow to Francis PAGET. Image of marriage is on Familysearch, just search for Mary Elvester born 1853. First Husband was Bateman HUTCHINSON

Adelaide arrived in BC in 1908 as Mrs Hutchinson.

Ruby Gregory was born 25 Nov 1905 and baptized 1st Dec 1905 at All Saints, Lambeth and she was listed only as the daughter of Adelaide Gregory, no occupation, abode 41 Jeffreys Road which was Clapham Maternity Hospital (later Annie McCall Maternity Hosp).

 Is this Adelaide
Immigration  Event Date   Jul 1906 Event Place Quebec City, Quebec, Canada
Arrival Port   Quebec, QC Ship Name   Empress of Britain
Ada Gregory  Birthplace   England
 Read write YES
To Be Deported  610010 ?
Single Waitress County Came From Oxford  destination Hamilton Ontario

Not finding a marriage  to Bateman Hutchinson or a birth record for Clifford

Clifford Bateman Hutchinson  born 27 Jun 1916
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Second Marriage  2 Nov 1931    Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Francis Forester Paget Age 59 Birthplace   Leicestershire, England    Bachelor
Father's Name   John Henry Paget Mother's Name   Catherine Clara Cradock
Spouse's Name   Adelaide Hutchinson  49  bc 1882 CAN READ AND WRITE
Spouse's Birthplace London, England Spouse's Marital Status   Widowed
Father's Name   Burnett Gregory  mothers name    Mary Elvester

On 24 September 1938  a Clifford Hutchinson  student 22 arrived in Southampton from Canada .
He was going to Mr H Calvert 35A Nevern Square , London SW5 .
Is this Adelaide`s son.

The Lethbridge Herald (Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada) 25 August 1943
Sicily Casualties Wounded Royal Canadian Artillery
Clifford Hutchinson PTE . Mrs Adelaide Raget (sic) mother Victoria.