Help untangling Bryant/Fletcher/Scott family at 15 Steele Road in 1921

[Darnity]

I'm going round in circles with these and would welcome other eyes looking at the family.

It started when I found a birth for a Kisbey Fletcher 4Q 1915 Willesden RD mmn Leesemore.

Now Kisby is a given name found in my Draper family and one of my Kisby's brothers married Hannah Fletcher so Kisby and Fletcher together sparked my interest.

The 1915 Kisb(e)y Fletcher appears to die 1Q 1978 Brent RD (dob 3/8/1915) and possibly marries 4Q 1955 Ealing RD Alice I Clack.

In 1921 Kisby is at 15, Steele Road, Acton, Willesden along with his mother Ellen Fletcher and brother Nathan Fletcher (1Q 1919 Willesden RD mmn Lessemore) as grandchildren in the Bryant family. We will come back to this household later.

in 1939 again at 15 Steele Road we find Sidney Fletcher, wife Ellen Fletcher, Kisby Fletcher 3 Aug 1915, Nathan Fletcher 4 Dec 1918, Charles A Fletcher 8 Mar 1924 (1Q Willesden mmn Lessemore ) along with an Arthur Fletcher b1903 and William Scott b 1901 (FindMyPast have this transcribed as 1907 but looking at original it is 1901, I have reported the transcription error).

Sidney Fletcher and Ellen Lessemore marry 1Q 1915 Willsden RD.

Sidney and Ellen are the second household enumerated at 15 Steele Road in 1939, the other being the Bryant household:

William Bryant 1866, Carolina Bryant 1873, Jane Bryant 1901, Priscilla Bryant 1911, Cinderella Bryant 1913 and Sidney Fletcher 1913.

Going back to 1921 and the Bryant household where Kisby and Nathan are shown as grandchildren we have William Bryant and wife Cora Bryant (birthplaces mistranscribed on FindMyPast) sons Nathan, William and Arthur Bryant and daughters Priscilla and Cinderella Bryant.

Sidney Fletcher is shown as SON in LAW and Ellen Fletcher his wife, mother of Kisby and Nathan, as DAUGHTER.

There are also William and Amy SCOTT shown as step grand children.

My first thought was that Cora/Carolina was a Fletcher who married William Bryant who already had children and that Sidney is her son but that doesn't explain Ellen Fletcher being William Bryant, as head of household's, daughter.

And how do the Scott step grandchildren fit into the family? Has Caroline been a Scott at some stage?

So I looked at William and Caroline Bryant in 1911 (Holly Lane Willesden) when they claim to have been married for 23 years and have had 9 children 7 still alive. They have sons Sidney and Nathan Bryant (the Sidney who marries Ellen Lessemore?) along with a Heron Fletcher, shown as brother (to whom?) and his wife Maria as visitors plus Alfred Light and Sinderella Buckland in the household.

I haven't yet managed to find the Bryant/Fletcher household in 1901 or any earlier.

So what do others think the relationships - step, in law -  in the 1921 Bryant household mean to whoever was filling in the census form?

Thanks for any thoughts on this one.

[Cas (stallc)]

There is this 1891, that matches some details from 1911.

Ealing, Middlesex
Gypsy van
Wm Bryant 24 Head, horse dealer, NK
Caroline Bryant   20   Wife, Kent, Stoke
Albert Bryant 10mths   Son, Hendon
Sarah Ann Humbles 11 Niece, Layton, Essex

Possible connection to help rule in/out.  No access to papers

Name   Albert Bryant
Topic   Law and Justice
Residence Date   26 Sep 1902
Residence Place   Ealing, London, England
Publication Date   26 Sep 1902
Publication Place   Ealing, London, England
Newspaper Title   Chiswick Gazette, etc.

There are also these
BRYANT, CINDERELLA     mmn FLETCHER 
GRO Reference: 1913  D Quarter in WILLESDEN  Volume 03A  Page 464

BRYANT, CAROLINA    mmn FLETCHER  (Priscilla?)
GRO Reference: 1912  J Quarter in WILLESDEN  Volume 03A  Page 551

BRYANT, ARTHUR    mmn   FLETCHER 
GRO Reference: 1910  M Quarter in WILLESDEN  Volume 03A  Page 315


Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

I think William Bryant & Carolina Fletcher possibly never married

Sidney Bryant in 1911 and then Sidney Fletcher in 1921 are the same person son of the above pair, but down as son in law in 1921.

Likely Baptism ?
Sidney Bryant (born 4 April)
Baptism Date   16 May 1892
Baptism Place   Saint John the Baptist, Hillingdon: Uxbridge Road, Hillingdon, England
Father   William Bryant, general dealer
Mother   Carolina Bryant
Register Type   Parish Register
Abode: Aylesbury

Ellen Leesemore was 10 yrs older than Sidney, 39 in 1921 to his 29. I think the Scott children are connected to her.

Heron in 1911 looks like he could be Aaron Fletcher  (2 people have given correction on Anc*)

Sinderella Buckland & Alfred Light with family in 1911 looks likely married in 1916, but her name is given as Smith. If the same person.

Cinderella Smith
Registration Date   1916
Registration Quarter   Apr-May-Jun
Registration District   Edmonton
Inferred County   Essex
Spouse   Alfred Light
Volume Number   3a Page number   1287

Cas

[Darnity]

Thanks Cas, you've confirmed some of my thoughts.

But it hadn't occurred to me that the Scott children could belong to Ellen from a previous relationship although I had wondered at the age difference between her and Sidney.

I had also looked for the Light/Buckland marriage but hadn't found one but if she is Cinderella Smith that gives another line to follow so thanks for that. (An earlier Kisby Draper had a relationship with Cinderella Smith/Beldom).

Will follow up more of this family. Just shows how another pair of eyes help when one can't see the wood from the trees so my thanks again.

If anyone has any further input it would be welcome.

There are also another two Fletcher families in the area that I think may be connected - at 11 Corby Road, Acton, Willesden in 1921 where the wife Selina Fletcher is a hawker born Southampton. Again we have step relationships, Smith this time.

The other is at the Fairground, Stonebridge, Willesden, again in 1921 where the family of William Fletcher a showman and Jane (Amer/Aymer/Hamer) include the wonderfully named Goldia, Geranium and Saccashia(?) as well as a son Sidney Fletcher.

[Cas (stallc)]

Some background info on Ellen, found after posting

Likely parents
Marriages Mar Q 1875   (others also on page)
Lessimore    William        Windsor    2c   622    
PARSONS    Elizabeth        Windsor    2c   622

LESSIMORE, ELLEN  LOUISA     mmn PARSONS 
GRO Reference: 1880  J Quarter in WINDSOR  Volume 02C  Page 476

Likely 1881
Windsor Berkshire
William Lesemore 33 Head, builders lab, Kent
Lizzie Lesemore 23 Wife, Berkshire, Bray
Emma Lesemore 5 Daughter, Windsor, Berkshire
Willie Lesemore 3 Daughter "
Nellie Lesemore   10mths, Daughter, "  (Nellie is pet name for Ellen)

Family elusive...Not uncovering the Scott connection at present.

[Cas (stallc)]

Added

LESSIMORE, WILLIAM       mmn PARSONS 
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in WINDSOR  Volume 02C  Page 444

LASSMOIRE, EMMA    mmn   PARSONS 
GRO Reference: 1875  D Quarter in WINDSOR  Volume 02C  Page 418

Possibly Emma is Emily in census, with Fryer children before 1913. 1901 both are licensed hawkers.

Marriages Mar Q 1913   
Fryer    George   - Lessimore    Maidenhead    2c   845    
Lessimore    Emily -    Fryer    Maidenhead

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

1921 for Selina Smith & Arthur Fletcher look like a blended family. All Fletcher children are his, (their mother dead) all Smith children are hers.(their father dead)

There are 4 baptism in 1916 for children of Robert Smith & Selina.  Eldest is Noah b 1907, Ethel 1909, Selina 1913

Youngest
Lydia Smith
Birth Date   20 May 1916
Baptism Date   8 Sep 1916
Baptism Place   Saint Michael and All Angels, Stonebridge: Hillside, Willesden, England
Father   Robert Smith, soldier
Mother   Selina Smith
Abode: Cut Throat Lane, Appleton or Alperton

Possible marriage
Marriages Dec Q 1916   
Saunders    Selina -     Smith    Brentford    3a   182    
Smith    Robert   -  Saunders    Brentford    3a   182

Earlier bapt for couple
Bender Smith (name is Render) can be found in 1911
Baptism Date   25 Sep 1911
Baptism Place   Saint Mary, Finchley: Hendon Lane, Barnet, England
Father   Robert Smith, gypsy
Mother   Selina Smith

Cas

[wivenhoe]

My note....census here corrected to be 1911


* Ancestry Baptisms London
https://www.ancestry.com.au/search/collections/1558/records/22190014?
St Andrew Willesden 10 Jun 1921
FLETCHER Nathan  Charles  ps  Sidney / Ellen                         5 Dudden Hill Lane  Willesden
born 4 Dec 1918

DURRANT Ellen Winnie        ps  Charles,  labourer / Winifred    5 Dudden Hill Lane  Willesden
born  15 Ju*  1920

* Ancestry Census England 1911
https://www.ancestry.com.au/search/collections/2352/records/39479388?
  at caravan at Woodland Rd Southall
SCOTT   Henry               35y                                                 b. Hounslow
SCOTT   Ellen                 35y     7 ch. 3 living   4 dec              b.  Windsor
SCOTT   Winnie              15y                                                 b. Haysden  Kent
SCOTT   Willie                10y                                                 b. Yeading Southall
SCOTT   John Lessmore   14m                                                b. Halton Middlesex
CAREY   Joe                   12y    adopted son                           b. Pyrford Surrey

[Cas (stallc)]

This looks like the same family but surname Smith. I think the pob for Aaron & Ellen have been swapped accidentally on enumeration.

There are 2 Carey families above both in caravans. Henry Scott or Smith is possibly down as a Carey in 1881

1901
East Hillingdon, Middlesex
No mans land, caravan
Henry Smith   23   Head, licensed hawker, Hounslow, Middlesex
Ellen Smith 23 Wife Paddock Wood, Kent, England
Aaron Grove 11 Stepbrother  Windsor, Berkshire
Winifred R Smith 4 Daughter, Haysden, Kent, England

Possible death, image online

Aaron Groves
Death Age   14
Record Type   Burial
Birth Date   abt 1890
Death Date   1904
Burial Date   20 Apr 1904
Burial Place   Saint Leonard, Heston: Heston Road, Hounslow, England
Register Type   Parish Register
Reference Number   13996935

Possible marriage connecting with baptism of Ellen Winnie Durrant

Marriages Sep Q 1918   
Durrant    Charles - Scott    Willesden    3a   628    6
Scott    Minnie   - Durrant    Willesden    3a   628     (is this Winifred/Winnie?)

Added - 1939 register as Rosa W Durrant
[Winifred Rosa Durrant b 1896

Baptism
Winifred Rosa Lessimon
Baptism Age   1
Birth Date   12 Aug 1896
Baptism Date   16 Jan 1898
Baptism Place   St Lawrence, Chobham, Surrey, England
Mother   Ellen Lessimon  (image looks Lessimore)

Baptism above Winifred is for George Fryer parents George & Emily (nee Lessimore)