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Help with address
« on: Friday 19 December 25 09:57 GMT (UK) »
Another undecipherable address I need help with. Please see attached.

Entry 492 - Robert Kyle. It looks like 20 Kav.......

I can't find anything likely in lennonwylie.

Also, a burial record for, I think, the same man shows he died at "Union Hospital of (sic) Donegal Road". Does that match with "Workhouse Belfast" on the attached?

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Re: Help with address
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 December 25 10:10 GMT (UK) »

20 Kavanagh St (Street)

Died at Belfast Workhouse.
Union Hospital, Donegall Road is the same.

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Re: Help with address
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 December 25 10:33 GMT (UK) »
Was there a Kavanagh Street in Belfast?  Maybe it's a misreading of Tavanagh.
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Re: Help with address
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 December 25 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to you both. I can't find 'Kavanagh' anywhere on lennonwylie. I can find Tavanagh Street though - from 1901 onwards.

It's an odd one generally because the name and exact date of death match with a burial record I have (with other family members shown in the same record) but at the time of death he was married with three children.

Still, mistakes are made.


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Re: Help with address
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 December 25 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Belfast workhouse admission records have survived and are held in PRONI. (The records themselves are not on-line though indexes are).  You might get a little more from them. They should contain: name, sex, age, marital status, employment, religious denomination, any disabilities, name of spouse, number of children, observations made when admitted, townland/address, date of admission and date of death.
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Re: Help with address
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 December 25 13:22 GMT (UK) »
The 1910 directory will have been printed a year or so beforehand. Try looking for the address in the Valuation Revision books-
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books

This advice was given to you at least once before (recently)-
The directories didn't list every street but you can check the Valuation Revision Books on PRONI's site to get a more accurate picture of who was at a property.
Also remember that directories were given a post-compilation date. Thus, the data for an 1880 directory might have been compiled the previous year.
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Re: Help with address
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 December 25 13:34 GMT (UK) »
From a newspaper
FOUND, 3rd inst., Greyhound female dog. Owner can have same proving property and paying expenses, at 22 Kavanagh Street, off Donegall Road.

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Coffey, Cummins [Rathfalla, Tipperary], Cummins [Skirke, Laois], Curran, Delan(e)y (Laois), Dillon [Clare], Fogarty [Garran, Laois/Tipp], Hughes, Keshan (Keeshan), Loughman [Harristown and Killadooley, Laois], Mallon [Armagh], Malone, Markham [Caherkine, Clare], McKeon(e) [Sligo/Kilkenny/Waterford], McNamara, Meagher, Prescott [Kilkenny/Waterford/Wexford?], Rafferty, Ryan, Sullivan, Tobin
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Re: Help with address
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 December 25 15:03 GMT (UK) »
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22 Kavanagh Street, off Donegall Road

Another typo, I think. Tavanagh Street is off Donegall Road.
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Re: Help with address
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 December 25 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Belfast workhouse admission records have survived and are held in PRONI. (The records themselves are not on-line though indexes are).  You might get a little more from them. They should contain: name, sex, age, marital status, employment, religious denomination, any disabilities, name of spouse, number of children, observations made when admitted, townland/address, date of admission and date of death.

Thanks for this. I followed the advice on this website:

https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2022/01/proni-releases-index-to-belfasts-poor.html

When I managed to view some images of admission books, they simply showed 'Number in Register', 'Paupers Name' and 'Age'.

The above link also suggests watching a help video, which I'll do. Otherwise, how do I get the information that you suggest is available?