Winifred Frader (Winnie) B1889 is Missing

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When John Basham died in 1947 who was the informant re his death. Does it mention Winifred.

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[wilcoxon]

When John Basham died in 1947 who was the informant re his death. Does it mention Winifred.

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Newspaper reports vary, one says he died at his sisters home, another that he died at his home.
Nothing specific.

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Winifred seemingly still alive after John's death.

The first time it appeared (longsdale belt) at a public auction where a date is specified in the search results was at Christie's on March 31, 1954.

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[Richard19]

There is a lot of information for Johnny Basham due to his boxing career especially news reports, he died in 1947 and was my Great Grand Uncle.

I suspect Winnie was with him between 1913/14 and 1947 and I've checked FreeBMD & GRO plus Family History sites but still can't find any sign of her other than her time with Johnny so she's a mystery.

I've looked for emigration and marriages in case Winie re-married, but I haven't found her.

Always a possibility that Winnie Frader wasn't her real name as there doesn't appear to be anything pre 1921 and post 1939.

Matbe this is one brick wall that won't be knocked down.

[jonwarrn]

If her daughter Winifred Margaret married Arthur George Burman, then Winnie Basham is with them on the post war Newport electoral registers.
At 12 Mountjoy Place, then up to the mid sixties listed at 103 Oliphant Circle.
Arthur died in 1966.

[jonwarrn]

Long shot
June 1966 Newport 8c 198
Basham, Edith W.   
Age 83   

Who she?

[Richard19]

  jonwarrn
Good points, Thanks.

You're correct her daughter did marry Arthur George Burman
I hadn't looked for her with her daughter and son in law so will follow that up, also with Edith W Basham - it puts her birth 7 years earlier but I'll follow that up as well.

On Johnny's death cert it says he died at 12 Mountjoy Place, Newport and his daughter Winifred Margaret Burman registered his death

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jonwarn, I think she may have started life as Edith Winifred Gamage dob 13.3.1883 Swansea, Parents Elias and Esther. Appears with parents in 1901 aged 17. Marries William John Thomas 1902 Swansea with son born 1907. They appear together in 1911. By 1921 Father William John (single) with son William Glyn ( records both parents still alive) in his mothers household. Father and son appear in 1939, father a widow. Cannot find ANY evidence of her death though,

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[Ladyhawk]

Winnie does seem to be a bit of a mystery not seeing any deaths for a Winnie/Winifred
after Dec 1969 showing a dob 14 Jun 1889 (as per 1939 Register)

I wonder if her daughter Winifred’s death certificate would be of any help - if still alive, perhaps her mother was the informant 

Winifred Margaret BURMAN age 58  Birth 31 Jul 1914 Reg. Mar 1973 Newport 8c 976