Winifred Frader (Winnie) B1889 is Missing

[softly softly]

I still smile at a boxer with the surname Basham 

SS

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks very much for letting us know the details.

I wonder who is named as her father in 1914, would be good if it was Elias, occupation Butcher

Father is named Elias. Cattle dealer, well I guess that's what a butcher is, in a way! Anyway, a similar line of business.

I think SS called it right, well done!

Im convinced if nobody else is. Greetings from Scotland, here to see grandchildren, what a joy

Ditto

SS How wonderful to be in Scotland especially with family - its such a beautiful place - was there in September travelled the NC500 - stopping at some amazing places along the way it was stunning and very lucky with the weather - can't wait to go back again!

Wishing everyone a Happy New Year and good health 2026

[Ladyhawk]

Richard19 - does Winifred Frader’s signature on the 1914 marriage look similar to the signature on the 1902 marriage of Edith Winifred Gamage 19,  Father Elias, butcher

[Ladyhawk]

I don't know if there's any connection to Winnie Frader who married 1914 Bangor 

Trevor Wilks Gamage age 4 Born 22 Mar 1877
Baptism    27 Apr 1881 Swansea St Mary,  Father   Elias Gamage Mother Esther

Trevor Gamage
Record Type   Admission
Admission Date   8 Jul 1911
Institution   Brecon
Institution Place   Breconshire, Wales
Death Date   19 Apr 1912
Death Place   Breconshire, Wales

Trevor Gamage age 33 abode The Brecon & Radnor Asylum
Burial  22 Apr 191? Talgarth, Breconshire

On the off chance I checked his d/c he died 19 April 1912 informant medical superintendent of the Asylum

Trevor Gamage of 12 Kensington Terrace Swansea died 19 April 1912  at The Brecon & Radnor Asylum Talgarth
Administration 12 March 1915 to Annie Xylandar (wife of Otto)

Otto Xylander
Record Type   Marriage Banns
Marriage Banns Date   30 Mar, 6 April,13 April 1913
Marriage Banns Place   Cockett, Glamorganshire, Wales
Marriage 20 Apr 1913
Residence Place   Swansea St Mary
Spouse   Annie Gamage

Annie Xylander died age 76 - 1951 Jul-Aug-Sep Swansea Volume 8b Page   520

Annie Xylander Alias Annie Gamage
Nationality   German
Birth  13 Sep 1876 Birth Place Clydach, Swansea
Image to view on Anc*y UK, World War II Alien Internees, 1939-1945

I'm not sure but I think Annie Gamage maybe nee Llewellyn and married Trevor Gamage 1905

[wilcoxon]

Richard19 - does Winifred Frader’s signature on the 1914 marriage look similar to the signature on the 1902 marriage of Edith Winifred Gamage 19,  Father Elias, butcher

This is  a good idea, checking the signature, it is quite distinctive

This birth can be downloaded as a PDF for £3
Hopefully mother registered the birth.
GRO index
THOMAS, WILLIAM  GLYN  mmn GAMAGE  GRO Reference: 1907  S Quarter in SWANSEA  
    

[wilcoxon]

1901.
Elias Gamage50Head
Trevor Wilk Gamage 24Son
Sarah Annie Gamage 20Daughter xxx
Winnifred Edith Gamage 17Daughter
Edw Obery Gamage13Son

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[wilcoxon]

1901.
Elias Gamage50Head
Trevor Wilk Gamage 24Son
Sarah Annie Gamage 20Daughter xxx
Winnifred Edith Gamage 17Daughter
Edw Obery Gamage13Son

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1911
William Merrells31Head
Sarah Annie Merrells30Wife
Stanley Merrells5Son


1921
William Merrells41 Years 7 MonthsHead
Sarah Annie Merrells40 Years 5 MonthsWife
Stanley William Merrells15 Years 9 MonthsSonI
Ivor John Merrells13 Years 4 MonthsSon
Amy Margaret Merrells9 Years 3 MonthsDaughter
Sidney Glyn Merrells7 Years 6 MonthsSon
Ivor Merrells3Son

So not as I thought it  could be Winifreds sister . It was worth a go.
Finished for 2025 now. 

[wilcoxon]

Richard19 - does Winifred Frader’s signature on the 1914 marriage look similar to the signature on the 1902 marriage of Edith Winifred Gamage 19,  Father Elias, butcher

This is  a good idea, checking the signature, it is quite distinctive

This birth can be downloaded as a PDF for £3
Hopefully mother registered the birth.
GRO index
THOMAS, WILLIAM  GLYN  mmn GAMAGE  GRO Reference: 1907  S Quarter in SWANSEA 
   

Maybe not. Doesn't the registrar fill the details in, So no signature of mother.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I don't know if there's any connection to Winnie Frader who married 1914 Bangor 

Trevor Wilks Gamage age 4 Born 22 Mar 1877
Baptism    27 Apr 1881 Swansea St Mary,  Father   Elias Gamage Mother Esther

Trevor Gamage
Record Type   Admission
Admission Date   8 Jul 1911
Institution   Brecon
Institution Place   Breconshire, Wales
Death Date   19 Apr 1912
Death Place   Breconshire, Wales

Trevor Gamage age 33 abode The Brecon & Radnor Asylum
Burial  22 Apr 191? Talgarth, Breconshire

On the off chance I checked his d/c he died 19 April 1912 informant medical superintendent of the Asylum

Trevor Gamage of 12 Kensington Terrace Swansea died 19 April 1912  at The Brecon & Radnor Asylum Talgarth
Administration 12 March 1915 to Annie Xylandar (wife of Otto)

Otto Xylander
Record Type   Marriage Banns
Marriage Banns Date   30 Mar, 6 April,13 April 1913
Marriage Banns Place   Cockett, Glamorganshire, Wales
Marriage 20 Apr 1913
Residence Place   Swansea St Mary
Spouse   Annie Gamage

Annie Xylander died age 76 - 1951 Jul-Aug-Sep Swansea Volume 8b Page   520

Annie Xylander Alias Annie Gamage
Nationality   German
Birth  13 Sep 1876 Birth Place Clydach, Swansea
Image to view on Anc*y UK, World War II Alien Internees, 1939-1945

I'm not sure but I think Annie Gamage maybe nee Llewellyn and married Trevor Gamage 1905[/b]

I'd agree with that suggestion. Annie's on 1911 as a married woman. She later divorces Otto and reverts to the Gamage surname