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Ulster King of Arms? 1849
« on: Monday 15 December 25 11:40 GMT (UK) »
I hope someone can shed light on this entry in someone's will.

They bequeathed 'The Grant of Arms to my Family in 1849 signed by the Ulster
King of Arms'.

Does this mean the family lived in Ulster at that time, or was it based on their ancestry?
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Re: Ulster King of Arms? 1849
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 December 25 11:44 GMT (UK) »
Nothing to do with living in Ulster as such.

It is leaving an actual patent of arms (document) to someone.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Ulster King of Arms? 1849
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 December 25 11:51 GMT (UK) »
I thought that was the case - bequeathing the document.

But intrigued as to what the document represents.
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Re: Ulster King of Arms? 1849
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 December 25 11:53 GMT (UK) »
The arms granted to, or confirmed to the family.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Ulster King of Arms? 1849
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 December 25 11:59 GMT (UK) »
And how would the family have been eligible for these arms? 
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Re: Ulster King of Arms? 1849
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 December 25 12:09 GMT (UK) »
By (new) grant, or confirmation of ancient usage
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Ulster King of Arms? 1849
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 December 25 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Wexflyer.  Is there a reliable website for searching arms of a particular family?  I think I've only found ones trying to flog random coats of arms to people who are desperate to have descended from the aristocracy.
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Re: Ulster King of Arms? 1849
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 December 25 12:37 GMT (UK) »
The records of Ulster King of Arms in Dublin will have a copy of this document
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Ulster King of Arms? 1849
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 December 25 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Tx I’ll do some digging.
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