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Ancestry Thrulines connects to the aunt of same name
« on: Sunday 14 December 25 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Looking for advice.  The thru lines is suggesting a connection to Mary Eliza Lee (see screenshot) b 1863.  However the person Jack Henry Humpherson born 1910 in Torpint is not her son but her great nephew.  Mary Eliza Lee Downing (nee Lee) is in Portland Dorset with her husband and 2 daughters in 1910.

She has an elder brother William HC Lee (also on screenshot from another DNA match) who names his daughter Mary Eliza Lee in 1880 and it is this women who is Jack Henry Humpherson's mother.

I cannot seem to change the thruline as it only offer me the option of saving him as his great aunt's son.

How do I correct this?  I have added him to my tree as a separate person but to no avail.

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines connects to the aunt of same name
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 December 25 16:55 GMT (UK) »
As you say, the thruline is a suggested connection and in this case you have established that the suggestion is wrong.  No shortcuts that I'm aware of, you'll have to weave him in to your tree the long way.  In time Ancestry may reference your tree and change the thruline, there again if yours is the only tree on Ancestry showing this particular relationship then the impression I get is that Ancestry will believe the majority.

If I'm understanding what you've written correctly, Jack Henry isn't your 1863 Mary Eliza's nephew, he's the next generation down.  He would be her nephew if he was the son of William H C, you say he's the son of one of William H C's daughters.

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines connects to the aunt of same name
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 December 25 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Jane

Jack is is the next generation down so his mother was my GG Grandmother's niece.   

The other person who did the DNA test has skipped a generation: in her tree as his father is Thomas Humpherson married to Eliza Mary Lee and his father in turn in Thomas married to Mary Nodder.  In the other persons tree she has Mary Nodder as Jack's mother but in reality it should be grandmother.  I have messaged her and hopefully she will correct the error and that may fix the thruline.

On  a separate note I have been trying to find a mystery ancestor with Scotch or Ulster Irish DNA.  I have a random 5% DNA form there that is not in my tree at all.  I have been looking for potential candidates and Daniel Panter Lee was the main suspect as he was separated from his wife and living apart when Mary Eliza Lee was conceived.  I wondered if he was not Mary Eliza Lee's real father but as the DNA matches his eldest son I can only assume that he must be the father to both children and thus not my mystery 5% Scot/Irish gg grandparent?


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Re: Ancestry Thrulines connects to the aunt of same name
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 December 25 16:11 GMT (UK) »
On  a separate note I have been trying to find a mystery ancestor with Scotch or Ulster Irish DNA.  I have a random 5% DNA form there that is not in my tree at all.  I have been looking for potential candidates and Daniel Panter Lee was the main suspect as he was separated from his wife and living apart when Mary Eliza Lee was conceived.  I wondered if he was not Mary Eliza Lee's real father but as the DNA matches his eldest son I can only assume that he must be the father to both children and thus not my mystery 5% Scot/Irish gg grandparent?

You have 5% Scottish (Scotch is a drink) or Ulster Scots DNA ESTIMATE which is not at all the same as Scottish or Irish ancestry.
I have very well researched ancestry from both paternal and maternal lines and my DNA estimates not only do not agree with the research but the estimates change whenever ANcestry decide to re-configure things.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!


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Re: Ancestry Thrulines connects to the aunt of same name
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 December 25 18:55 GMT (UK) »
Indeed.  It seems rather odd that they can assign such a significant % in error.  However I have a great grandfather whose entire family came from the Isle of Portland going back to the C17th in documents and probably much earlier.  All of his ancestors came form Portland yet according to Ancestry I have no Dorset ancestry at all.  I know that not all DNA is inherited but that seems a large amount to be missing where as i have 9% from Devin and Cornwall from his wife my Great grandmother.

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines connects to the aunt of same name
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 December 25 19:10 GMT (UK) »
I should that my mother who has a North Welsh mother (with welsh trees going back centuries) has exactly 50% welsh DNA.  Her father had a Devon/Cornish mother so she has 32% Devon/Cornwall.  Her father's father was the one from pure bred Portland yet her DNA says 11% South East England and again 7% Central Scottish/Ulster Scots.

All very odd.  I do wonder if the centuries long isolation of Portland (they literally only inter married for centuries) is throwing up the oddity.

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines connects to the aunt of same name
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 December 25 22:14 GMT (UK) »
My mother was 3/4 German & 1/4 English which should be fairly straight forward except that Ancestry has, at the moment, assigned me 10% South Germanic Europe (not the part of Germany where any of my ancestors lived), 3% Denmark (paternal ancestry?), 2% N.W. Italy (no Italian ancestry). There's also 2% Connaught (again, no ancestors near there) and a bit more Scot./NI & Welsh with lots more English regions than there should be. Just don't make sense but if I wait long enough it will change.
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Re: Ancestry Thrulines connects to the aunt of same name
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 December 25 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the Ancestry results broken down by region does suggest that what they are assigning as Ulster Scots is in fact the Isle of Portland.  The amount matches perfectly the Cornwall/Devon proportion which is my maternal great grandmother: it seems likely that the Ulster Scots is my great grandfather from Portland.  Unfortunately my grandfather and his father were both only children so I don't have cousins to compare to.  The other option is that my greatgrandmother had a dalliance with a passing Scotsman!  As I have quite a few DNA matches to Portland ancestors before her lifetime I think I can rule that out.