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Clements, Hugh. 1825-1900, and the many wives of.
« on: Sunday 14 December 25 14:37 GMT (UK) »
I have Hugh Clements (clemont, clemens, clemints) b. 1825  whitehaven, cumbria to Edward & Mary Ann.
He married Jane Hutchison abt.1848 and is listed in 1841 cen as coal miner in ferry hill, Durham. 
A wedding (as Clemints) in 1859 st andrews aukland, to Rachael Madgan (also of whitehaven)
1871 cen, as a fruit dealer, West Cornforth.
Rachael died between the '81 & '91 census.
As '91 shows Hugh (Clemons) with wife Hannah, of Hetton le Hole, in West Rainton. 
Hugh died in 1900 at Lanchester.
I'm looking for Jane, Rachael & Hannahs deaths.  along with Hannahs maiden name & wedding.
I have had no joy with freebmd, Family Search, FindMyPast, Ancestry or Find a Grave.

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Re: Clements, Hugh. 1825-1900, and the many wives of.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 December 25 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Did he have any children with Hannah?  If so the birth registration should reveal her maiden name.
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Re: Clements, Hugh. 1825-1900, and the many wives of.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 December 25 15:31 GMT (UK) »
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Rachael died between the '81 & '91 census.

Are you assuming that because he is with a new "wife" in 1891?  If there is no marriage to Hannah then Rachael could still be alive just separated from her husband.
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Re: Clements, Hugh. 1825-1900, and the many wives of.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 December 25 15:48 GMT (UK) »
What was the last child he had with Jane?  That should narrow down her death. 

Edward Clements Jun 1854 and Henry Clements Jun 1856 have mothers maiden name Hutchinson

Also William Clemonts Jun 1852

Do you have the 1861 census details please?




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Re: Clements, Hugh. 1825-1900, and the many wives of.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 December 25 16:17 GMT (UK) »
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Marriages Sep 1847   

Hutchinson    Rachel        Whitehaven    25   119    
Madgen    Thomas        Whitehaven    25   119   

1851 census--Cellar under Barkers Buildings, 5, Albion Street, Whitehaven, Cumberland,

Thomas   Madge   Head   Married   Male   24   1827   Coal miner   Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Rachel   Madge   Wife   Married   Female   25   1826   -   Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
 
Marriages Mar 1859   
Clements    Hugh        Auckland    10a   126    
Madgan    Rachael        Auckland    10a   126    

Are Jane and Rachel related?

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Re: Clements, Hugh. 1825-1900, and the many wives of.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 December 25 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Bit confused what happens to all the children?

Found 1861 under Cummins
Hugh 36
Rachael 35
William 9

1851 has
Hugh 26
Jane 24
Mary Jane 2
Elizabeth 1
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Re: Clements, Hugh. 1825-1900, and the many wives of.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 December 25 16:21 GMT (UK) »
What was the last child he had with Jane?  That should narrow down her death. 

Edward Clements Jun 1854 and Henry Clements Jun 1856 have mothers maiden name Hutchinson

Also William Clemonts Jun 1852

Do you have the 1861 census details please?

1871census

Hugh   Clement   Head   -   Male   46   1825   Fruit dealer   Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
Rachel   Clement   Wife   -   Female   46   1825   -   Whitehaven, Cumberland, England
William   Clement   Son   -   Male   18   1853   Labourer f   Ferryhill, Durham, England
Dorothy A   Tatters   Niece   -   Female   12   1859   -   Durham, England

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Re: Clements, Hugh. 1825-1900, and the many wives of.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 December 25 16:50 GMT (UK) »
CLEMENTS, EDWARD       aged 6 
GRO Reference: 1860  J Quarter in DURHAM  Volume 10A  Page 150

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Re: Clements, Hugh. 1825-1900, and the many wives of.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 December 25 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Softly Softly & Milliepede.

Interesting connection with Whitehaven & Jane & Rachael. I had not considered Madge.
I have 4 kids listed with Jane but nothing with Rachael or Hannah.
There is another Hugh marrying in co durham in 53, but he is younger. He could be the one married to Hannah, but the occupations and ages in the census don't line up properly.
The young death of Edward lines up age wise.
The 2 daughters Mary Jane & liz. I have hit a wall. there are 2 Mary Jane weddings about the right age but they are confirmed different parents.
I suspect a grave stone somewhere has all the answers.