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PARLE/PARELL family of Kilmagig, Avoca
« on: Friday 12 December 25 00:58 GMT (UK) »
I have records for a Luke Parle/Parnell and Fanny Long born c.1800 who lived in and around the Kilmagig area nr Avoca.
They had 6 daughters, Mary b.1825, Eliza b.1828, Jane b.1833, Fanny b.1838, Anne b.1839 and Margaret b.1840.
Anne married a Matthew Curley in Rathdrum.
Margaret married a John Lawlor/Lawler and moved to Cumberland.
I looked in Griffith's Valuations. I was hoping somebody might help me find out a bit more about the family and/or area. Any suggestions?
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Re: PARLE/PARELL family of Kilmagig, Avoca
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 December 25 04:08 GMT (UK) »
Just for reference, here are all the Baptisms I have been able to locate for Luke Parnell & Fanny née Long:
  • Michael, Baptized 7 April 1823 in Avoca [1]
  • Mary, Baptized 25 December 1825 in Avoca 
  • Brien, Baptized 10 September 1828 in Avoca [2]
  • Elizabeth, Baptized 14 September 1828 in Avoca [2]
  • Anne, Baptized 5 February 1831 in Avoca
  • Jane[3], Baptized 4 August 1833 in Avoca
  • Jane, Baptized 17 August 1834 in Avoca
  • Fanny, Baptized 28 January 1838 in Avoca
  • Margaret, Baptized 5 July 1840 in Avoca



Notes:
  • [1] Older parish registers from the Avoca Parish used to name maiden names for the mothers of those receiving baptism. Registers were also written in Latin. In this instance, Michael is recorded as being the son of Luca Parl[e] & Francisca Long.
  • [2] Brien & Elizabeth were both baptized in the same year and month; most likely twins, but there exists a strange discrepancy where Brien and Elizabeth aren't recorded as one entry but rather two separated entries on different pages. The baptism for Elizabeth appears in the month of October and is specifically written as September instead.
  • [3] The reusing of the name Jane twice is most likely because the first died.
- Kiernan from County Meath
- Kelly from County Kildare
- Donnelly from County Tyrone
- McKenna from County Tyrone/Moghanan

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Re: PARLE/PARELL family of Kilmagig, Avoca
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 December 25 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Hello HistoricalGenealogy,
Thank you very much, that was extremely useful. I had missed a lot! My count now makes 10, I've added Anne born 1839. She is the one I'm linking to Matthew Curley.


1. Michael, Baptized 7 April 1823 in Avoca
2. Mary, Baptized 25 December 1825 in Avoca
3. Brien, Baptized 10 September 1828 in Avoca
4. Elizabeth, Baptized 14 September 1828 in Avoca
5. Anne, Baptized 5 February 1831 in Avoca
6. Jane, Baptized 4 August 1833 in Avoca
7. Jane, Baptized 17 August 1834 in Avoca
8. Fanny, Baptized 28 January 1838 in Avoca
9. Anne, Baptised 5 February 1839 in Avoca
10. Margaret, Baptized 5 July 1840 in Avoca

It is Margaret I'm keenly interested in. I have potentially 2 daughters for her named Mary (the first died in infancy) and I couldn't square that, but here is the precedent in the family - 2 Janes and now 2 Annes. I'm very happy!

Have you been looking further into this family? Now that my Margaret link is stronger, I'm keen to go back further. I haven't managed to spot the marriage of Luke and Fanny for example.

With kind regards, rejen

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Re: PARLE/PARELL family of Kilmagig, Avoca
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 December 25 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Forgive me for my late response. I will take a look at this later, but if possible, could you send the source of the baptismal record for Anne? I haven’t been able to locate her.

9. Anne, baptised 5 February 1839 in Avoca
- Kiernan from County Meath
- Kelly from County Kildare
- Donnelly from County Tyrone
- McKenna from County Tyrone/Moghanan


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Re: PARLE/PARELL family of Kilmagig, Avoca
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 December 25 22:56 GMT (UK) »
Hello, and no problem.
I found it in the parish records here:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633314?locale=en#page/27/mode/1up
Kind regards,
Regen

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Re: PARLE/PARELL family of Kilmagig, Avoca
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 December 25 07:25 GMT (UK) »

Forgive me for my late response. I will take a look at this later, but if possible, could you send the source of the baptismal record for Anne? I haven’t been able to locate her.

9. Anne, baptised 5 February 1839 in Avoca


I found it in the parish records here:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633314?locale=en#page/27/mode/1up


5 February 1831

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Re: PARLE/PARELL family of Kilmagig, Avoca
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 December 25 15:37 GMT (UK) »
I do apologise, that is astonishingly embarrassing. Sorry to have put you to any trouble.

I am still trying to piece together the various Parle/Parell/Parnell families of Avoca and surrounding areas (despite my ineptitude with dates!) and think I've been making progress.

I revisited the Griffith's Valuation and have Luke Parnell at Ballycooleen and Michael Parle at Ballyarthur, for example.

If you're willing to give guidance, it would be appreciated,
kind regards, regen