St Bede's RC Clayton Green & St Joseph's RC Brindle, Prior/Pryer

[ReJen]

Hello paslwigr,
I'd like to take you up on your offer to lookup records for St Bede's RC Clayton Green and St Joseph's RC Brindle. I'm new to this, so I hope these are the kind of details you need. The census details I have vary quite wildly.

Parents: Patrick Prior and Mary Prior, born in Ireland
Catherine Prior b.1857-62 - Brindle
Joseph Prior b.1868-70
Rose E. Prior b.1872

Joseph Prior marriage to Ellen O'Connor 1891
Charles Prior b. 1895/1900 - Brindle
John William b. 1908 - Brindle
Joan Prior b. 1928 - possible granddaughter

I'd be grateful for all and any details listed, and any other Priors, too.

With kind regards, ReJen

[jds1949]

Hi,
I have the following which might be of interest:
Catherine's birth was registered under the name of "Fryer" - presumably owing to a mis-hearing on the part of the registrar - the informant, Catherine's mother, was illiterate.

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1854
FRYER Catharine   
Birth registered at Brindle/Withnell   
Register at Preston   
Mother's maiden name: MCPARTLAN   
Ref: BR/8/43

Extract from Birth certificate
9th October 1854 - Brindle
Catherine daughter of Patrick Fryer [sic] and Mary Fryer [sic] formerly McParlan
Occupation of father: labourer at coal yard
Informant: Mary Fryar [sic] mother [made her mark]
Registered 27th October 1854

1861 census entry [piece 3115 folio 31] - enumerated as "Fryer"
Brindle  Great Radburn
Patrick Pryer head married 30 Labourer b. Ireland
Mary Pryer wife married 33 Charwoman b. Ireland
John Pryer son single 10 b. Ireland
Mary Ann Pryer daughter 8 Scholar b. Chorley
Catherine Pryer daughter single 6 Scholar b. Brindle
Francis Pryer son single 5 Scholar b. Brindle
James Pryer son single 2 Scholar b. Brindle
Cicely Pryer daughter single 2 months b. Brindle

AND

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1894
PRIOR Charles   
Mother's maiden name: O'CONNOR   
Birth registered in 1894 at Brindle/Withnell   
Register at Preston   
Ref: BR/23/42

1901 census entry [piece 3907 folio 120]
Blackburn
8, Brunswick Street
Joseph Prior head married 31 Coal Carter - worker b. Clayton Green
Helen Prior wife married 31 b. Ireland
Charles Prior son single 6 Scholar b. Brindle
Cathleen Prior daughter single 2 b. Blackburn
Joseph Prior son single 1 month b. Blackburn

AND

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1871
FRYER Rose Ellen   
Mother's maiden name: MCFARLANE   
Birth registered in 1871 at Leyland   
Register at Preston   
Ref: LEY/20/98

[As always, the registrar suffered to accurately record the family names]

1881 census entry [piece 4216 folio 66]
Clayton-le-Woods
46 Green
Patrick Prior head married 54 Sand Dealer b. Ireland
Mary Prior wife married 54 Sand Dealer's wife b. Ireland
Catherine Prior daughter single 24 Cotton Weaver b. Brindle
Joseph Prior son single 12 Cotton Weaver b. Clayton-le-Woods
Rose E. Prior daughter single 9 Scholar b. Clayton-le-Woods
John Madden lodger single 28 Labourer b. Ireland


The Priors are part of my extended family on my mother's side. I have more if you think these fit and should you wish to exchange information.

jds1949

[ReJen]

Hi jds1949,
Thank you so much, following up 'Fryer' has helped fill in the gaps! I had a great AHA moment when the picture cleared.
Have you traced the Priors to Co. Cavan? I have been looking at the Killeshandra 1941 Census and it seems promising.
I'm hoping that my recent posts will be moderated soon and then hopefully I can PM. I would like to know more about the Priors in Clayton-le-Woods area if you care to share.
Kind regards, rejen

[jds1949]

Hi,

Yes the Fryer/Prior thing had me stumped for a while, Patrick's accent must have been quite strong!

I have not got any further back with the Caven connection, but it is some years since I last looked at this branch. I am now going to see what's new, but I would be very interested in anything you find.

I am more that happy to share what I have on the Priors. My connection is through Mary Ellen Prior 1877 - 1921, who married my maternal great grandfather Robert McCarthy in 1906.

Regards,

jds1949

[ReJen]

Yes, Frank's family. I'm related through Joseph's family and as far as I know they were all in the Chorley area until around the 1960's. Pleased to meet a distant relation!

The 1951 census has John aged 0 born in Ireland.
The Killashandra records have both Prior and McPartlan families in the 1941 register.
There's a Mary McPartlan aged 12 born 1828, which fits well. Parents: Michael & Eleanor McPartlan.

The listing I'm looking at for Patrick and Anne Prior has a Patt Prior aged 14 born 1828, its on Family Search, but I can't see the actual record - is it possible there's a page missing? The other part of the record has two Prior deaths.
Maybe there's another copy of this census? I will try and have a look.

I looked in the parish registers for a marriage, or baptism of John, there were other Priors, but its possible I could have missed it, I find the handwriting hard to decipher. I had a quick scout in neighbouring parishes in case there was overlap, but no joy.

I'd be glad to hear what you discover!
All the best, regen

[ReJen]

UPDATE
The 1941 census is available here:
https://cavantownlands.ie/killashandra-census-of-1841/
and Patrick and family are recorded here in Drumnawall townland.
I'm thrilled to find them, I think is isn't so common to go back this far in many places in Ireland.
Funnily enough, the link to the McPartlan family, Arvagh townland, here seems to be wrong, so Family Search is better for that record.

[jds1949]

PM sent