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Re: Ann Cattle born Arnold Notts 1802
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 December 25 09:27 GMT (UK) »
I have found baptisms in London districts for a Henry Cattle and an Enoch Cattle, both with parents William and Elizabeth, one in Clerkenwell and one in St Sepulchre. There are post 1813 baptisms to a William / Elizabeth couple in St Sepulchre for a Martha Ann and John James. giving William's occupation as tailor. My best canddate on censuses for Henry is also a tailor. Enoch is an undertaker. Martha and JJ died in infancy. The best possibilty for a marriage for a William and Elizabeth is in Yorkshire at Sherrif Hutton on 08 Dec 1798 by licence (bride's surname Atley) it says age 21 on transcript, but the actual document might say over  21. Being Yorkshire, the licence image would have to be ordered from the Borthwick.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Ann Cattle born Arnold Notts 1802
« Reply #10 on: Friday 12 December 25 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Do William and Elizabeth get married in Sherrif Hutton, then the tailoring work dries up in Yorkshire, so they decide to go to London. Ann is born in transit at Arnold, but no time to get her baptised there, they've got a canal boat to catch in Northants, so they get her baptised at Bugbrooke?

Found another baptism in St Sepuchre, William George in 1819, father is a tailor again
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Ann Cattle born Arnold Notts 1802
« Reply #11 on: Friday 12 December 25 09:50 GMT (UK) »
William George Cattle didn't die in infancy like two of his siblings. He married at least twice. Found his marriage as a widower age 32, occ tobacconist, father William - occ tailor, to Jane Parker, 37 spinster, at St George Martyr, Borough High st on 11 sep 1851. wit J. Penn and Mary Cook or Coak.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Ann Cattle born Arnold Notts 1802
« Reply #12 on: Friday 12 December 25 09:55 GMT (UK) »
I have found baptisms in London districts for a Henry Cattle and an Enoch Cattle, both with parents William and Elizabeth, one in Clerkenwell and one in St Sepulchre. There are post 1813 baptisms to a William / Elizabeth couple in St Sepulchre for a Martha Ann and John James. giving William's occupation as tailor. My best canddate on censuses for Henry is also a tailor. Enoch is an undertaker. Martha and JJ died in infancy. The best possibilty for a marriage for a William and Elizabeth is in Yorkshire at Sherrif Hutton on 08 Dec 1798 by licence (bride's surname Atley) it says age 21 on transcript, but the actual document might say over  21. Being Yorkshire, the licence image would have to be ordered from the Borthwick.

Finally found Henry's probate record to confirm this. Don't know what's wrong with FindMyPast's search engine today.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Ann Cattle born Arnold Notts 1802
« Reply #13 on: Friday 12 December 25 10:56 GMT (UK) »
Now found the image of the marriage record of William and Elizabeth. Her surname may be Attay, not sure if double t or t and l, the crossing goes across both letters. One witness is John Cattle. On the same page is a marriage between John Smithson and Dorothy Maxon, one witness is Led Cattle. And the last marriage on the page is witnessed by the same John cattle and a Thomas Cattle. John Cattle may be a church official, but are he and the other cattles related to William? All Cattles can sign their names. 
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Ann Cattle born Arnold Notts 1802
« Reply #14 on: Friday 12 December 25 11:33 GMT (UK) »
There's a burial of a William Cattle in Sheriff Hutton from Free reg, about the right age to be the person who married there

date    24 Sep 1836
Burial person forename    William
Burial person surname    CATTLE
Person age    59
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Re: Ann Cattle born Arnold Notts 1802
« Reply #15 on: Friday 12 December 25 11:33 GMT (UK) »
An Elizabeth Cattle was buried oon 27 June 1841 at St james Clerkenwell. Age 61, abode 11 Helena Place. She should have just made the 1841 census. If she was the one married in Yorkshire she wouldn't be 21, but maybe that's why they married by licence and pretended to be  of age
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Ann Cattle born Arnold Notts 1802
« Reply #16 on: Friday 12 December 25 11:38 GMT (UK) »
There's a burial of a William Cattle in Sheriff Hutton from Free reg, about the right age to be the person who married there

date    24 Sep 1836
Burial person forename    William
Burial person surname    CATTLE
Person age    59

There's  also an Elizabeth Cattle age 70 on her own in Sherriff Hutton in 1841. I think there are two William / Elizabth couples
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Ann Cattle born Arnold Notts 1802
« Reply #17 on: Friday 12 December 25 11:58 GMT (UK) »
If  you look at Northants FreeReg there is a family of Cattles in Braunston back as far as 1740s.

Problem is can't find a marriage to fit in.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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