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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 03:50 GMT (UK) »
bother - missed that thread. I thought I had found them all :-)

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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Marriage 17 July 1867 St George Edinburgh
James Clark, 23, single, Engineer on Board SS Balbec. Father - Robert Clark, Mother - Ann Philip
Elizabeth Simpson, 20 single, bookbinders gold layer. Father - James Simpson, mother – Elizabeth McGlashian


Children from the above marriage:-
•   Elizabeth Jane 1868 Edinburgh
•   Ann 1870 Liverpool
•   James 1872 Liverpool
•   Margaret 1875 Liverpool
•   William 1878 Liverpool
•   Edith 1880 Liverpool
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 08:30 GMT (UK) »
Yes I've tied myself in knots! I'm not very good with things like this.

I was going to link to other threads regarding my post but thought it might have confused things. The opposite may well be the case.

I will have to evaluate these replies before I reply. And I really do appreciate people taking time to answer my posts. Thank you.

 

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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 09:55 GMT (UK) »
For this particular thread this is my starting point.

William Richard Clark (1875-1949) - Find a Grave Memorial

Williams birthdate sometimes differs from different sources but b1875 is on his grave.

Then the following regarding his parents. (Taken from this thread.)

Marriage 17 July 1867 St George Edinburgh
James Clark, 23, single, Engineer on Board SS Balbec. Father - Robert Clark, Mother - Ann Philip
Elizabeth Simpson, 20 single, bookbinders gold layer. Father - James Simpson, mother – Elizabeth McGlashian


Then again posted on this thread the siblings of William which answers my original question.
‘William Richard Clark siblings?’ (I couldn’t see them in any of my previous threads.)

Children from the above marriage:-
•  Elizabeth Jane 1868 Edinburgh
•  Ann 1870 Liverpool
•  James 1872 Liverpool
•  Margaret 1875 Liverpool
•  William 1878 Liverpool 
•  Edith 1880 Liverpool

Is Williams birthdate a problem here?

Have I got things right or have I just confused matters more? Hopefully with your help the former.


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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 10:20 GMT (UK) »
William richard Clark who married Annie cook is not your family.

This is your William’s birth


CLARK, WILLIAM       SIMPSON 
GRO Reference: 1879  M Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 435

I haven’t found a definite death for him.
He isn’t the 1949 one (I don’t believe)

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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 14:42 GMT (UK) »
There is a lot of conflicting information.
I think osip needs to decide who he is descended from.
Is it William Richard Clark and Annie Cook, or is it James Clark and Elizabeth Simpson?
These are different and unrelated families.
As Clark is such a common name, you need to look with a great deal of care, and check your documentation, to ensure you are following the correct family.

Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 15:17 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Neale1961. 

Do you think that we could start from a point that you know is entirely accurate, ie who are named as the parents on your mothers birth certificate, what year was that birth, where in the world did it take place
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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your replies AND patience.

My investigations were all about tracing the Clark line back. This is what I know for sure.

SUSANNA LLOYD (CLARK) 1910-2001

Her parents are named on the headstone.

WILLIAM RICHARD CLARK 1875-1949
ANNIE CLARK (COOK) 1877-1952
married 1897

Then is there where the confusion begins?

Williams parents:
JAMES CHRISTOPHER CLARK 1844
ELIZABETH SIMPSON 1847

James parents:
ROBERT CLARK 1812
ANN PHILIP 1820


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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 18:16 GMT (UK) »
WILLIAM RICHARD CLARK 1875-1949
ANNIE CLARK (COOK) 1877-1952
married 1897

Where does your information come from?
What are the names of parents from the BIRTH certificate and MARRIAGE certificate of William Richard Clark?
Do you have these documents?
 If not, then you need them before you can move forward.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)