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William Richard Clark siblings?
« on: Tuesday 09 December 25 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Searching my notes I have so far researching my Clark family, I have yet to find the siblings of William Richard Clark 1875-1949. Parents James Clark 1844 - Elizabeth Simpson 1847.

Any help would be gratefully recieved.

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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried searching the GRO index with surname Clark and mothers maiden surname Simpson

Do you have the family on census after James and Elizabeth married
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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Is this his birth

CLARK, WILLIAM  RICHARD     Mothers maiden surname WELSH 
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK  Volume 08B  Page 337
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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Presumably his death
Death Dec qtr 1949   
Clark    William R    age 74   
Liverpool N. 1

Did he marry Annie Cook in 1897 - father named as James Christopher Clark (deceased) occ Mariner...

There is this marriage for his probable father
Marriages Dec 1876          
CLARK    James Christopher       
PRICE    Eliza       
Liverpool    8b   301
James Christopher Clark was a Widower occ Mariner
Eliza was a Spinster
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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Searching my notes I have so far researching my Clark family, I have yet to find the siblings of William Richard Clark 1875-1949. Parents James Clark 1844 - Elizabeth Simpson 1847.

Any help would be gratefully recieved.

Where did the information about his parents come from
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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you rosie I'll answer as best as I can.

Williams mothers maiden name was McGlashan.

Yes William died 1949.

Yes he married Annie 1897.

His father James married Elizabeth Simpson in Edinburgh 1867.

I have come across Eliza Price before and it was suggested that could have been his 2nd marriage?

hopefully that all makes sense.   Thanks again

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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 02:49 GMT (UK) »
I am confused.  - Added - see next post before worrying about this one.

James Christopher Clark …is he the one who died at sea in 1894 about whom you have other threads?

He says…on that 1876 marriage to Eliza Price that his father was James, a land surveyor.

On your Roger Martin Clark thread, I thought you said James who died 1894 at sea, was the brother of Robert, the son of Robert and Ann (Philip)

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=895473.0

Also, in your opening post you have William Richard Clarke’s mother as SIMPSON,
I have yet to find the siblings of William Richard Clark 1875-1949. Parents James Clark 1844 - Elizabeth Simpson 1847.

yet later you say she was McGLASHAN.

Williams mothers maiden name was McGLASHAN


Can you please confirm James father from the 1867 marriage certificate.




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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 03:45 GMT (UK) »
How do you come to William Richard CLARK?
I think two Williams have been confused.

I don't have the 1867 marriage details - I presume you do as you need those to confirm this James is 'your' James, son of Robert & Ann (Philip) CLARK
But working from what I can glean - I have found

James CLARK married Elizabeth SIMPSON St George, Edinburgh 1867

Elizabeth Jane CLARK mother SIMPSON born 1868, St George, Edinburgh


1871 census
60 Tintern Street, Kirkdale, Liverpool, Lancs

James CLARK 27, Steamship Engineer born Scotland
Elizabeth CLARK wife, 24, Engineers Wife born Scotland
Elizabeth J. Dau 2 born Scotland
Ann 7 mos born Liverpool, Lancashire

1881 census
69, Eton Street, Walton on Hill

Elizabeth Clark, 34, Marine Engineer’s wife, born Scotland
Elizabeth 12, daughter, born Scotland
Margaret dau 5, born Liverpool
William 2 born Liverpool
Edith 1 m born Liverpool

1891 census
7 Guion Road, Litherland, Lancashire

James 47, Marine Engineer,  b Scotland
Elizabeth 44, b Scotland
Elizabeth J. Robinson dau 22, Scotland
Margaret 15, Nurse domestic Liverpool
William 12, Liverpool
Edith 10, Liverpool
Alfred J. Robinson son-in-law, 24, Bricklayer, b Battersea, London
James Robinson, grandson 3, born West Derby, Lancashire.

Death of James the Engineer - of Ince Ave, Litherland. And Australian papers please copy would co-incide with your Australian branch.

https://www.findmypast.com/image-share/17120c66-977f-47bf-ade5-978d07426b48

You can follow the families on relatively easily.
Birth registrations are on GRO and digital images can be bought to confirm

William, from those censuses,  married Ellen Christina Bridge in 1905. Image is on Ancestry. William is 26, an Engineer and father is James Clark, deceased (no occupation given)

But marriage of Elizabeth Jane Clark, in 1887,  is on a tree on Ancestry.  She names her father as James Clark, Engineer.

And so William Richard CLARK and  James Christopher CLARK are different people.

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Re: William Richard Clark siblings?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 December 25 03:48 GMT (UK) »
I agree, Osip has confused names. There are multiple threads involving the family.
See my reply 9 here for marriage details and census
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=895195.9
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)