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James Bird
« on: Tuesday 09 December 25 02:29 GMT (UK) »
Hello I am looking for any information on James Bird who married Mary Elizabeth Powers in Clifton, Bristol in 1866. Was he the son of Willam Bird and Elizabeth Dicks.
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Re: James Bird
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 04:38 GMT (UK) »
In 1871 after his marriage his birth place is listed as Abbots Leigh in 1842

I did find this baptism

James Bird
25 Oct 1840
Abbots Leigh (Holy Trinity), Somersetshire
Father    William Bird
Mother    Elizabeth Bird

Which ties in with this birth

BIRD, JAMES    mothers maiden name BUNCE     
GRO Ref 1840  D Qrtr in BEDMINSTER  Volume 11  Page 73

and this family in 1841 Living at Abbots Leigh Somerset  Looks on the original like the surname is Bird

Elizabeth Bard   78  Independant
William Bard   36 Ag Lab
Elizabeth Bard   20
Sarah Bard   3
James Bard   6 Mo

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Re: James Bird
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 04:53 GMT (UK) »
Found this marriage

William Cotton Bird
Marriage 17 Apr 1836 St James, Bristol, Gloucestershire
Spouse    Elizabeth Bunce

One of the witnesses Harriot Bunce

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Re: James Bird
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 05:11 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for the help. We believe James Birds mother is Elizabeth Dicks? Open to consider any info.
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Re: James Bird
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 05:19 GMT (UK) »
1871 as noted by Kay99
James Bird 29 Head born Abbots Leigh
Mary Bird 30 Wife
Child Not Christened 0 Daughter (14 days)
Fanny Town 20 Sister-in-law, image is Power

BIRD, FANNY  ANN mmn POWER 
GRO Reference: 1871  J Quarter in CLIFTON  Volume 06A  Page 76

BIRD, ROBERT  WILLIAM mmn POWER 
GRO Reference: 1867  S Quarter in BEDMINSTER  Volume 05C  Page 761

BIRD, MARY  JANE mmn POWER 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in CLIFTON  Volume 06A  Page 90

+ James Hiram Bird 1873 and Hannah 1874 Cardiff.
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Re: James Bird
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 05:40 GMT (UK) »
1871 with their grandmother;
Elizabeth Bird 52 Widow
Sarah Bird 33 Daughter
John Bird 24 Son
Elizabeth Bird 21 Daughter
Robert Bird 3 Grandson
Mary Bird 2 Granddaughter
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Re: James Bird
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 05:55 GMT (UK) »
These are the only births pre 1847 that I can see that could relate to the 1837 William Bird/Elizabeth Dicks marriage with no James - Elizabeth was a spinster when she married

BIRD, CHARLES  DICKS      mmn DICKS     
GRO Ref: 1837  D Qtr  BRIDGWATER UNION  Vol 10  Page 280
BIRD, -        mmn DICKS     (female)
GRO Ref 1839  J Qte BRIDGWATER UNION  Vol 10  Page 357
BIRD, JANE        mmn  DICKS     
GRO Ref: 1841  S Qtr  BRIDGWATER UNION  Vol 10  Page 325
BIRD, ROBERT    mmn DICKS     
GRO Ref: 1844  S Qtr BRIDGWATER UNION  Vol 10  Page 33
BIRD, MARIA     mmn DICKS     
GRO Ref 1846  J Qtr BRIDGWATER UNION  Vol 10  Page 378


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Re: James Bird
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 07:52 GMT (UK) »
Bit of a side track but 2nd Wife of James was Ellen Delahunty.
Marriage Reg June 1876 Cardiff.
Cant see anything on line for it though.
1851/1861 she is easy to find.
1921 FrancIs Bird, 50, Visitor, Daughter-In-Law  is with her.
1911 she is with Mary J Ryall nee Bird, no children born to her.

Possible Death Reg for Mary Elizabeth Bird nee Powers;
Deaths Dec 1874
Bird    Mary Elizabeth   age 35 Cardiff 11a 192

If June 1876 Death Reg is James they werent married long.

Helen/Ellen must have been quite a Woman to take on his younger children and also adopt another unrelated child.
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Re: James Bird
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 December 25 08:16 GMT (UK) »
We believe James Birds mother is Elizabeth Dicks? Open to consider any info.

This is the marriage you mention
William Bird and Elizabeth Dicks marriage Bristol 7 Oct 1837
His father was William Bird (labourer)


some BIRTHS to this marriage  (Mmn Dicks) -
BIRD,   -       DICKS 
GRO Reference: 1839  J Quarter in BRIDGWATER UNION  Volume 10  Page 357
BIRD, JANE         DICKS 
GRO Reference: 1841  S Quarter in BRIDGWATER UNION  Volume 10  Page 325
BIRD, ROBERT       DICKS 
GRO Reference: 1844  S Quarter in BRIDGWATER UNION  Volume 10  Page 339
BIRD, MARIA          DICKS 
GRO Reference: 1846  J Quarter in BRIDGWATER UNION  Volume 10  Page 378
BIRD, ELIZABETH       DICKS 
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in BRIDGWATER UNION  Volume 10  Page 355

This is that family in 1851
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGG2-YWQ?lang=en

I don’t believe this is the family you are looking for. No James in this family. The father William is a butcher.


THIS IS YOUR FAMILY in  1851.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGGK-GS1?lang=en

The children were baptised at Abbots Leigh (Holy Trinity)
Sarah Ann 1837, James 1840, William Charles 1843, John 1845, Elizabeth 1849.


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