Thomas & Jane Harper - Earsdon

[mulberry-rose]

Hi, I’m looking for what happened to two siblings after 1851. Thomas Harper (b. 1830) and Jane Harper (b. abt 1833).

Their parents are Thomas Harper (miner) and Jane Dixon nee Wardrobe who married at Durham in May 1827. Jane Snr was previously married to Charles Dixon in 1811 at Gateshead (he died in 1817).

Thomas was baptised 10 July 1830 at All Saints, Newcastle. Abode Wide Open.

In 1841 Thomas (11yr) & Jane (8yr) were living with their mother at “Fold” in Earsdon.

By 1851 Thomas (21, coal miner) & Jane (18) were still living at Seghill with their  mother, who was on parish relief . Both their birthplaces listed as [Edit: corrected] Longbenton Northumberland. There is no sign of both after this.

Jane Snr died on 1 April 1853 at Seghill, the witness was her son Charles Dixon, from her first marriage.

Thank you

[softly softly]

Amarriage for the back burner for Jane.

Marriages Dec 1853 
Harper    Jane                Tynemouth    10b   227    
Johnson    Thomas        Tynemouth    10b   227   

JOHNSON, THOMAS  OLIVER     mmn HARPER 
GRO Reference: 1856  S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 109

JOHNSON, WILLIAM  HENRY HARPER    mmn HARPER 
GRO Reference: 1858  S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 116

1861 census
Piece   3837
Folio   24
Page number   1
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Thomas Johnson 30 Head
Jane Johnson 29 Wife
Thomas Johnson   5   Son
William Johnson 3 Son

SS

added--not your Jane, FindMyPast transcript has her father as William

[rosie99]

By 1851 Thomas (21, coal miner) & Jane (18) were still living at Seghill with their  mother, who was on parish relief . Both their birthplaces listed as Wideopen Northumberland. There is no sign of both after this.

Looking at the image for that census entry their birth places are both listed as Long Benton 

[Milliepede]

Yes I agree it's Long Benton Northumberland but no luck finding Thomas or Jane afterwards 

Did they have any other siblings apart from Charles Dixon?

[softly softly]

Yes I agree it's Long Benton Northumberland but no luck finding Thomas or Jane afterwards 

Did they have any other siblings apart from Charles Dixon?

Siblings

Catherine Harper 1826-27
Isabella Harper 1828-1892 ( married George Douglas 1886)

SS

[mulberry-rose]

By 1851 Thomas (21, coal miner) & Jane (18) were still living at Seghill with their  mother, who was on parish relief . Both their birthplaces listed as Wideopen Northumberland. There is no sign of both after this.

Looking at the image for that census entry their birth places are both listed as Long Benton 

Sorry! I think I must have gotten mixed up when looking at the baptism and census

[mulberry-rose]

Yes I agree it's Long Benton Northumberland but no luck finding Thomas or Jane afterwards 

Did they have any other siblings apart from Charles Dixon?

Charles Dixon had two elder brothers; George (1811) and Thomas (1815). But no sign of these two either. I’m inclined to think Thomas Dixon maybe died young or before 1830 given that Thomas Harper was named as such.


George’s baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/68339b80865574fb7a30d850

Thomas’ baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684dd71786557455d48d5027

Charles’ baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684dd77486557455d48d754d

Catherine Harper’s baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684d76a886557455d467c152

Isabella Harper’s baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818cd49e93790ec8b318899

 Thomas Harper’s baptism: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818cd09e93790ec8b310d68

Charles Dixon’s marriage: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684d541986557455d4592598

[Radcliff]

I feel Iv looked briefly at this family before ,  did Jane not perhaps have a son William Lynn Harper 21st May 1853 , who lives with his maternal Grandparents in 1861



and Jane was a widow when she died in 1853 her son Charles being the informant on her death

[mulberry-rose]

Radcliffe

Thanks, I’ve previously looked at William Lynn Harper but I couldn’t find anything conclusive that would link his mother to my Jane Jr.

I believe his father was William Lynn b. 1832 at Murton. He married Sarah Smart in 1860 at Tynemouth and died in 1861.

Jane Snr was in 1851 listed as a coal miners widow living off the parish relief. I don’t know when Thomas Harper Snr died though.