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Re: Brunkard, not sure where to post
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 December 25 15:36 GMT (UK) »

found isabella death under surname mcmahon

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(scroll to bottom - Lurgan SRD, Portadown RD)


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Re: Brunkard, not sure where to post
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 December 25 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Just for the record, here is the actual image from the Drumcree RC parish registers of the baptismal record for Isabella Brunkard (in preparation for her marriage to Thomas Morgan), the baptism took place on 10 March 1875 (3 days before said marriage), John Brunkard and Eliza Wright were clearly stated as her parents, the sponsor was Mary Catherine Morgan:

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632569#page/51/mode/1up (left page)


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Re: Brunkard, not sure where to post
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 02 December 25 20:45 GMT (UK) »
wow Gaffy....wow wow wow ....thank you thank you

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Re: Brunkard, not sure where to post
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 02 December 25 20:50 GMT (UK) »
2nd thoughts, still thank you,  did she have to be baptised catholic in order to marry?


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Re: Brunkard, not sure where to post
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 02 December 25 23:14 GMT (UK) »
It's not something that I'm 100% about, so I'll rely on others to keep me right, but my understanding of Ireland in that era is that a mixed marriage required Papal Dispensation otherwise it wasn't considered valid from the RC Church perspective ... unless the other party first converted to Catholicism (ie. 'problem' solved).


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Re: Brunkard, not sure where to post
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 00:17 »
I also noticed on a subscription website a marriage record for a George Brunkard of 'Cornascribe' who married an Eliza Grundell at Tandragee Presbyterian Church on 22 March 1837, they had a son Robert Brunkard baptised in the same church in 1839, I don't know how they fit into the overall picture.  A quick check of the 'Ancestry' website shows several trees for this family, who ended up in Canada from the early 1840s.


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Re: Brunkard, not sure where to post
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 00:47 »
I also noticed on a subscription website a marriage record for a George Brunkard of 'Cornascribe' who married an Eliza Grundell at Tandragee Presbyterian Church on 22 March 1837, they had a son Robert Brunkard baptised in the same church in 1839, I don't know how they fit into the overall picture.  A quick check of the 'Ancestry' website shows several trees for this family, who ended up in Canada from the early 1840s.

With the name Brunkard being so rare in that area, I feel it’s very likely that George is part of this same family who we know were in Cornascreeb in the tithes in the 1830s.  Tradition being to marry in the bride's church would account for them marrying in Tandragee Presbyterian.
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Re: Brunkard, not sure where to post
« Reply #16 on: Today at 05:36 »
It's not something that I'm 100% about, so I'll rely on others to keep me right, but my understanding of Ireland in that era is that a mixed marriage required Papal Dispensation otherwise it wasn't considered valid from the RC Church perspective ... unless the other party first converted to Catholicism (ie. 'problem' solved).

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