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Re: Elizabeth Hogan before Marriage
« Reply #9 on: Monday 01 December 25 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Good spot Mabel, did not look further than census.  ::)

There is a possible death in Ashton Sept Q 1882  for Patrick Hogan age 42, wonder if it's him?
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Elizabeth Hogan before Marriage
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 December 25 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Good spot Mabel, did not look further than census.  ::)

There is a possible death in Ashton Sept Q 1882  for Patrick Hogan age 42, wonder if it's him?

There's a married Patrick Hogan b Ireland c1840 in barracks in Ashton on the 1881 census. Staff sergeant 6th Royal Lancs Miltia

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Re: Elizabeth Hogan before Marriage
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 02 December 25 23:06 GMT (UK) »
The birth certificate for Eliza Hogan reads:

Date & Place of Birth: 10th September 1866, 15 Enville Street, Ashton Under Lyne
Name: Eliza Hogan, female         
Father: Patrick Hogan
Mother: Mary Ann Hogan nee Daley   
Father’s Occupation: Shoemaker
Informant: Mary Ann Hogan, Mother, Union Workhouse, Ashton Under Lyne
Reported on: 17th October 1866

Thank you everyone!

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Re: Elizabeth Hogan before Marriage
« Reply #12 on: Friday 05 December 25 19:58 GMT (UK) »
The birth certificate for Eliza Hogan reads:

Date & Place of Birth: 10th September 1866, 15 Enville Street, Ashton Under Lyne
Name: Eliza Hogan, female         
Father: Patrick Hogan
Mother: Mary Ann Hogan nee Daley   
Father’s Occupation: Shoemaker
Informant: Mary Ann Hogan, Mother, Union Workhouse, Ashton Under Lyne
Reported on: 17th October 1866

Thank you everyone!

Looking through this again (away from all of the excitement of the find) I realise that the birth certificate, rather than proving my link, actually disproves it. The occupation fits with the wedding certificate mentioned in the original post is correct but the same wedding certificate states that my Elizabeth Hogan's father is called Thomas and not Patrick.

I know you've all worked really hard on all of this and I really appreciate that. It looks like it must be a different family that I'm looking for. Esp confusing is the Lynch connection for the baptism of Elizabeth's daughter.

Thank you, Luke


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Re: Elizabeth Hogan before Marriage
« Reply #13 on: Friday 05 December 25 20:49 GMT (UK) »
I wouldn't count her out. It's not unknown for people to combined their birth and stepfather's names on a marriage cert, especially if she was young when her parents split and she might only know sketchy details of her birth father

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Re: Elizabeth Hogan before Marriage
« Reply #14 on: Friday 05 December 25 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Just in case the Lynch/Hogan/Daley family is still in the running:

Maybe they managed to marry a bit later on

Q2 1884   Ashton    8d   843   
BUCKLEY    Amelia Ann          
HOGAN    Mary Ann        
LYNCH    Thomas
        
Noel    Osmond Ogier        

Osmond and Amelia married, so Thomas and Mary Ann are definitely the other couple

From Lancs BMD
3rd May 1884 St Ann, Ashton under Lyne
Thomam Lynch and Mariam Annam Ogan
Groom's Father: Francisci Lynch
Bride's Father: Patritii Daley
Witnesses: Maria A. Smith; Elizabetha A. Palmer
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