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Re: Did Folk use different churches in 1700s?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 November 25 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Andy -- you mention Methodism - by coincidence my own 5 X Gt Grandfather was a Clerk at his C of E Church for 29 years until his death.
However his son, my 4 X Gt Grandfather, converted to Methodism.

HIS children were baptised twice - as initially, the nearest Methodist Chapel was some miles away in a different little township - a long walk away, BUT, when a Methodist Chapel was created in his own township - the children were baptised again.

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Re: Did Folk use different churches in 1700s?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 November 25 08:51 GMT (UK) »
As far as marriage is concerned -

Until 1837, all marriages (except those involving Quakers and Jews) had to take place in the parish church and according to the rites of the Church of England.

The 1836 Marriage Act made provision for the registration, for the solemnization of marriages, of any building certified as a place of religious worship, as from 1 July 1837.A registrar of marriages had to attend and register the marriage. To give non-conformist bodies the same rights as enjoyed by the Established Church, Quakers and Jews, the Marriage Act 1898 provided for the appointment (by the governing body of a registered building) of an authorised person in whose presence the marriage had to be solemnized and by whom it had to be registered.


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Re: Did Folk use different churches in 1700s?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 November 25 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi, thanks for the inputs. I also realised that St Andrews Lamesley and St Cuthberts CLS are both Anglican, so there is that at least.  There was a period about 1740s when Lamesley was in disrepair apparently and it was rebuilt in about 1759 (I think).  So some bouncing around may be OK.
I still cannot tie William Wind marriage to Cow Close, but it seems "possible".
Irritating but another William Wind married an Ann Hopper 1750 in Witton Gilbert, C Durham.  Its further away and I dont think it  links to Lamesley....

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I found that the Witton Gilbert marriage says that both are from Kimblesworth, so two different Williams, they were married at St. Michaels, which is Anglican in 1750, William (of Kimblesworth) to Ann Hopper (of Kimblesworth) according to RecordsOnline. So William and Ann are still possibilities
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Re: Did Folk use different churches in 1700s?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 30 November 25 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Yes,as Methodism and Baptism gained ground many working class people joined those sects, but the belief was that a baptism in the Cof E - Anglicanism, was “ stronger “ and as infant deaths were all too common babies were baptised in the church ,and also Baptists believe that total immersion
is required ,hence the deep tanks in the chapels, you could not safely submerge a baby.

Churches sort  of segregated the poor from the wealthy ,ie pews bought and reserved by wealthy families whilst” hoi polloi “ stood at the back often !
Methodism was a great leveller .
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Re: Did Folk use different churches in 1700s?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 30 November 25 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Yes,as Methodism and Baptism gained ground many working class people joined those sects, but the belief was that a baptism in the Cof E - Anglicanism, was “ stronger “ and as infant deaths were all too common babies were baptised in the church ,and also Baptists believe that total immersion
is required ,hence the deep tanks in the chapels, you could not safely submerge a baby.
Viktoria.
My understanding of the Baptist Church is that no-one is baptised until they are able to make an informed choice, so this usually doesn't occur before the mid teens or later. I don't think Baptists adhered to the idea that everyone was intrinsically sinful from birth and therefore needed the 'protection' of baptism at an early age if they were to be saved from damnation.

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Re: Did Folk use different churches in 1700s?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 30 November 25 13:32 GMT (UK) »
There was also the influence of who you worked for.  In the later 18th cent. entrepreneurs were building factories, creating industrial towns, and many of them were also involved in setting up non-conformist chapels.  The parish church was more likely to see "professional" people: lawyers, accountants, medics and grammar school masters.  It was probably deemed politic to be seen worshipping in the "correct" place.

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Re: Did Folk use different churches in 1700s?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 November 25 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Yes,as Methodism and Baptism gained ground many working class people joined those sects, but the belief was that a baptism in the Cof E - Anglicanism, was “ stronger “ and as infant deaths were all too common babies were baptised in the church ,and also Baptists believe that total immersion
is required ,hence the deep tanks in the chapels, you could not safely submerge a baby.
Viktoria.
My understanding of the Baptist Church is that no-one is baptised until they are able to make an informed choice, so this usually doesn't occur before the mid teens or later. I don't think Baptists adhered to the idea that everyone was intrinsically sinful from birth and therefore needed the 'protection' of baptism at an early age if they were to be saved from damnation.

Of course ! I had forgotten that,it had to be a conscious decision by an adult .
I have mentioned that elsewhere on RootsChat ,how silly of me to forget  :-[
Many thanks.Viktoria.