Samuel Duncan

[aidansrest]

Not near a laptop at present-  but sounds interesting! 
What was his occupation and place of birth in 1901?

Sue

[mulberry-rose]

Not near a laptop at present-  but sounds interesting! 
What was his occupation and place of birth in 1901?

Sue

He was an engine fitter born at Durham. Previously married to Elizabeth Burdon in 1889 and appears in 1891 at 5 Dene Terrace, Southwick as a son-in-law. Doesn’t look to be yours.

[mulberry-rose]

This may be worth a look?  Age keeps varying.

Samuel Duncan
25, b Oldham
5”, brown hair
Collier
HMP Wakefield
In debt
(1895)

Samuel Duncan
29, b Oldham
Miner, 5”1/4, brown hair
HMP Wakefield
Bastardy(?)
(1896)


Samuel Duncan
28, b Oldham
Miner, 5”1/4
HMP Wakefield
Drunk
“Been five years in Wandsworth Industrial School”
(1897)

The 1881 census for this Samuel

“Reformatory Or Boys Home" Wandsworth Common
Samuel Duncan, 17, inmate, b Lancashire

A possibility in 1906, but not 100% sure
Samuel Duncan
Committal: 24 April 1906
Drunk
b Scholes, Wigan
Age 43, 5”3/4, brown hair
Puddler
Wakefield HMP

[aidansrest]

Thanks so much- if it is my Samuel it would explain his absences and possibly why his son, named in 1901 as John Cassidy, was with his grandparents at that time

Sue

[mulberry-rose]

Happy to help 

A bit more digging brings out this article, Samuel Duncan (13) admitted to reformatory school in 1876.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/96f71ecc-c731-4bcf-bb88-ab7bb6a43d12

Possible for 1871 Rawmarsh Lane, Rotherham

Thomas Price, 41
Charlotte Price, 31
Mary E Price, 8
William T Price, 6
Margaret Price, 1
Ellen Dunkin, 56, mother, b Staffordshire
William Dunkin, 33, brother, b Staffordshire
Samuel Dunkin, 7, brother son, b Derbyshire

[aidansrest]

That's fabulous!! I really appreciate your help as Samuel (and his son, John, who is now sorted) have been a nightmare! 

Many thanks

Sue

[JenB]

Have been checking out this "near fit" (pity about the birthplace)

https://www.scottishindexes.com/prisontranscript.aspx?prisonid=271911926

in order to rule out. Nowt as yet.

There is also a prison register entry on Scotlands People.

Samuel Duncan, admitted Barlinnie Prison, 1898. Age 29, birthplace Oldham.
A newspaper article relating to this gives his occupation as puddler and also states he sometimes went under the assumed surname Jackson.

By 1901, Samuel was back in Lancashire, and lodging in Stalybridge, where he was employed as a ‘puddler’ in the ironworks, which would fit with the occupation John gave him in 1914; he confirmed that he was married and gave his birth place as Oldham, Lancashire.

[aidansrest]

Again...thank you so much!! I'll be back on the case later today!

Sue

[hanes teulu]

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