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Re: Wiese family
« Reply #45 on: Yesterday at 21:13 »
Typo error 1842 is Right
Luise was an illegitimate Child

thanks for pointing that out, I just realised as I checked the marriage of her parents in the March.

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« Reply #46 on: Yesterday at 22:40 »
Do you Need any more help?
I could see if I can find Friedrich‘s ancesters. Just let me know if you Need more assistance
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« Reply #47 on: Yesterday at 23:23 »
In light of the above, it begins to look like Louisa came to South Australia.

I have seen information about her in records but was not persuaded enough to support it as the right woman.

As Louisa GRABOWSKY She applied for naturlisation in 1903 with a birth stated 1842 andplace Wandsbek Holsten .
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SessionTimeOut.aspx

she arrived aged 18 with Gottfried WEISE on the "Caesar Helene" in 1859 and married Carl GRABOWSKY at Talunga in 1861

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« Reply #48 on: Yesterday at 23:42 »
Typo error 1842 is Right
Luise was an illegitimate Child

Are there any possible records as to Luisa's father?

The certificate record wording is a bit ambiguous.
I'm sure it is intended to state Catharina was the shoemaker's daughter??

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« Reply #49 on: Today at 01:50 »

My understanding of the birth record for Luisa is that "factory worker Peter Elias Friedrich Wiese admitted" to being the father.
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« Reply #50 on: Today at 01:53 »
Thanks Neale,
On consideration, I agree, that is what it reads.
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« Reply #51 on: Today at 03:04 »
all excerpts are from  www.archion.de

Schleswig-Holstein > Landeskirchliches Archiv der Evangelisch-Lutherischen Kirche in Norddeutschland > Kirchenkreis Hamburg-Ost > Wandsbek >

we´ll start with their marriage

Marriage 1852

März 27
der hieß(ige) Hufschmied Peter Friedrich Elias Wiese. Der weil(and)
Peter Rudolf Wiese in Bramfeld u(nd) der weil(and) Catharina
Stademann ehl(iche) Sohn, geb(orn) 1814 den 10 Juli

mit

seiner Braut, Anna Catharina Maria Trenktrog ?
des Schusters Hans Jacob Trenktrog in Sühlen, Kirch-
spiels Oldesloe u(nd) der Catharina Dorothea geb(orene) Ramm
ehel(iche) Tochter, geb(oren) 10 Aug. 1814

der Bräutigam von Dr Westphal im Jahre 1821 vacciniert. Die Braut
von Dr Hagelstein in Oldesloe am 18 Sept 1815
geimpft
---------------------------------
Bridegroom: the local Blacksmith Peter Friedrich Elias Wiese, born 10 July 1814
legitimate son of the deceased Peter Rudolf Wiese from Bramfeld and his deceased
wife Catharina Stademann

with

Bride:  Anna Catharina Maria Trenktrog, born 10 Aug 1814
legitimate daughter of the Shoemaker Hans Jacob Trenktrog in Sühlen, parish of Oldesloe
and Catharina Dorothea nee Ramm


The bridegroom was vaccinated by Dr Westphal in the year of 1821
The bride from Dr Hagelstein in Oldesloe on the 18 Sept 1815


Note:
Smallpox, broke out repeatedly, especially in the 18th century, and due to the frequency of epidemics due to this no couple in Schleswig-Holstein were allowed to marry without proof of a smallpox vaccination


David  thanks for all your help, if it's not too much trouble could we possibly see any more children for peter Rudolph Wiese and his wife Catheria..

I think the Ludwig Heinrich Engel Wiese was born circ 1810, comes to Australia 1854, dies back in Germany in 1875? He's naturalised here in Aus. 1865

It would be interesting to see if I could work out the Gottfrieg who is on board with Louisa fits.