Wiese family

[CHERAN]

I am looking for informtion re:

Peter Friedrich Elias Wiese  AKA Friedrich  I am ble to find lots of online information but so discrepancies are worrying me.


is buried in Handorf as is his 2nd wife Anna Eliza Elizabeth Schach - marraige 1 Aug 1851, Adelaide, SA  Trinity Church  they are both recorded as being Single?

I have the burials for for the Couple in Hahndorf and that The WIESE blacksmith business in Hahndorf was a coach-building and blacksmithing firm. 

I have is all the online information ie

https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~moadfamily/family/Family/PS37/PS37_421.HTM 
but the problem I have

I can find is that his first wife Anna Catharina Maria Frenktrog/Trenktrog is still alive in 1857 in Germany

I can't find an immigration for "Friedrich"  and for his son Ernst (Ernest) from his first marriage ... there is a immgration in 1853 for an Ernst  born Wandsbek, Holstein aged 8 except this child arrives comes with his Father and Mother 
Departure Date   18 Nov 1853 (18 Nov. 1853)
Departure Place   Hamburg, Deutschland (Germany)

Any help would be appreciated!

Cheran


 

[sparrett]

This is the information on the family from Biographical Index of South Australians, a resource which has occasional errors, but is frequently more accurate than online trees.

Notes on Find a Grave are from contributors.  Not necessarily validated.

WIESE Peter Claus Fried Niagian b: 1815
Bramfeld, Berkstadt, Holstein, Germany
 d: 28.3.1893 Hahndorf SA arr: 1849*
occ: Wheelwright,Blacksmith, Councillor
Residences: Hahndorf, Charlestown, Springton
rel: Luth
m: (1/2) unknown ch: Ern
m: (2/2) 1851 SA* Anna Elis nee SCHACH b: 1820
Lanken, Germany d: Dec.1889 Hahndorf SA

arr: 1847 HELotsr ch: Elis, Herman (1852-1880),
Chas (1855-1938), Sena Augta (1857-), Wm (1858-),
Whma Augta PAECH(1 860-1953), Paul (1862-1930)
 

Sue

[sparrett]

This from the same source about son Ernest

WIESE Ernest b: c1844 d: 25.6.1885 bd: WTC
arr: by 1873 occ: Coachsmith res: Adelaide rel: C/E
m: Eliza Victoria b: c1847 d: 12.9.1925 ch: Ada Jane
(1873-), Emma Frances (1881-), Ethel May (1885-)

Sue

[CHERAN]

Thanks Sue

I found Anna Elizabeth on the Diane Cummins website

https://bound-for-south-australia.collections.slsa.sa.gov.au/1847Heloise.htm

[TreeSpirit]

Are there any primary sources that prove that the Peter Friedrich Elias WIESE from Wandsbeck is definitely the same person as the Frederick WIESE from Bramfeld who married Eliza Schach Adelaide in 1851 (Holy Trinity: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKS-M9VL-R?cat=koha%253A345079&i=258 (Cert#1743))?

[wivenhoe]

  Use this site....keyword........Wiese........
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/BasicSearch.aspx

 has naturalisation records back to mid 19th century for WEISE.....

[CHERAN]

thanks for this...

I found Frederich Wiese  blacksmith of Hahndorf Naturalisation Page.... 1865 been in south australia 16 years so now to find a record of him arriving in 1849.  his place of birth agrees with th information Bramfeld, Stadt Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

I also Found Ernst Probate record 1885 states formerly of Hahndorf 

Are there any primary sources that prove that the Peter Friedrich Elias WIESE from Wandsbeck is definitely the same person as the Frederick WIESE from Bramfeld who married Eliza Schach Adelaide in 1851 (Holy Trinity: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKS-M9VL-R?cat=koha%253A345079&i=258 (Cert#1743))?

Cheran

I haven't found any except the Find a Grave https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201493348/peter-eleus_friedrich-wiese
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201491623/elisabeth-wiese

Friedrich Wiese, who settled in Hahndorf in the early 1850s, established the blacksmith and coach-building business.
Family business: Wiese's son, Wilhelm August Wiese, worked with him in the business.

William's death in WA

Surname Wiese
Given Names William
Sex M
Age 57
Father Frederich WIESE
Mother Unknown SCHARCH
Place of Death Ora Banda
Year of Death 1915
Registration District Broad Arrow
Registration Number 1000005
Registration Year 1915

[sparrett]

I would suggest posting on the Europe Board of this forum.

You need to establish the name of Ernest's mother with certainty and to seek his parents marriage and her death.

I have not been able to locate any verification of these events and do not have worldwide sub to Ancestry.

Familysearch.org might be a source.

Sue

 

[CHERAN]

Will do...

Thankyou