Robert E Lee Davis Parents

[oldohiohome]

On your findagrave page for Robert E Lee Davis you say that his father, Francis Marion Davis, died sometime between 1930 and 1940. How do you know? If you have his censuses after 1900 could you post them? Also his wife if she survived him.

Phoebe is a widow in 1910.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7884/records/176915782?tid=&pid=&queryId=0cd91843-a870-4a65-bf2b-4c2f6adf0ad5&_phsrc=Xuz504&_phstart=successSource

I hope I converted the link from U.S. to UK correctly. If not, just look for Phebe Davis, b 1852, living in Stoddard County in 1910.

[oldohiohome]

Missouri death records start in 1910 on their state site, so no death record for Francis Marion Davis. Too bad, it might have included his parents' names if his survivors knew them.
Here is Phoebe's for reference:
         her death: https://www.sos.mo.gov/images/archives/deathcerts/1925/1925_00003613.PDF
         parents: David Humphrey, b Jonesboro TN, Siss. Rilly, b Jonesboro, TN

so her maiden name was Humphrey. She must have married a Mr. Barber before marrying Francis M.

[TomGad]

On your findagrave page for Robert E Lee Davis you say that his father, Francis Marion Davis, died sometime between 1930 and 1940. How do you know? If you have his censuses after 1900 could you post them? Also his wife if she survived him.

Phoebe is a widow in 1910.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7884/records/176915782?tid=&pid=&queryId=0cd91843-a870-4a65-bf2b-4c2f6adf0ad5&_phsrc=Xuz504&_phstart=successSource

I hope I converted the link from U.S. to UK correctly. If not, just look for Phebe Davis, b 1852, living in Stoddard County in 1910.

Not sure where that find a grave info is from as its incorrect

[TomGad]

1860 Township 18 N Range 13 E, Pemiscot County, Missouri
P.O. Caruthersville
July 13, 1860
Page 39, family 289
Francis M Davis, age not known, levee builder, personal estate: $200, born in Kentucky
Josephine Davis, age not known, housewife, born in Missouri
Alex Devlin, age not known, female, no occupation, real estate: 200, born in Missouri
William H Davis, 1, born in Missouri

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH8M-C3W?lang=en

Love how scuffed these census’ are at times. Here in 1860 Josephine’s birth location is set as Missouri but on her son’s death certificate it states her birth as being in France!

[oldohiohome]

I think I have figured it out going through Lee Davis’ Tree on Ancestry. Francis must have been with or married Josephine at some point. Lee has her listed as Josephine Celisbeast.

Josephine was also married to a Mr Thomas Doolin and they had a son Alex Doolin. Now whether this is a relation to the Doolin on the Davis Census I believe could be true. Does this link it all together do you think?

Where did the Doolins marry, live, be born and die, do you know? It might be another place to look for Francis Marion Davis.

[oldohiohome]

Love how scuffed these census’ are at times. Here in 1860 Josephine’s birth location is set as Missouri but on her son’s death certificate it states her birth as being in France!

Information depends on the person giving it. But sometimes a wrong location can tell you something. Was Josephine French? France owned Louisiana, Arkansas and a whole lot more of North America until 1803. I haven't looked up the name Celisbeast yet.

Also U.S. censuses are not done the same as the U.K. An enumerator goes around, tries to find everyone, and talks to whoever answers the door. So if the wife answers and she knows her husband's family was from North Carolina, she might assume he was born there also.  Sometimes a neighbor might provide the information. You never know what you will get, so you have to factor in the answers and see if they are telling you anything after all.

[TomGad]

I think I have figured it out going through Lee Davis’ Tree on Ancestry. Francis must have been with or married Josephine at some point. Lee has her listed as Josephine Celisbeast.

Josephine was also married to a Mr Thomas Doolin and they had a son Alex Doolin. Now whether this is a relation to the Doolin on the Davis Census I believe could be true. Does this link it all together do you think?

Where did the Doolins marry, live, be born and die, do you know? It might be another place to look for Francis Marion Davis.

Thomas Doolin Married Werrmaford Custus (Josephine apparently) in Jefferson Missouri on February 27th 1854. Thomas was seemingly from Ireland

[TomGad]

Love how scuffed these census’ are at times. Here in 1860 Josephine’s birth location is set as Missouri but on her son’s death certificate it states her birth as being in France!

Information depends on the person giving it. But sometimes a wrong location can tell you something. Was Josephine French? France owned Louisiana, Arkansas and a whole lot more of North America until 1803. I haven't looked up the name Celisbeast yet.

Also U.S. censuses are not done the same as the U.K. An enumerator goes around, tries to find everyone, and talks to whoever answers the door. So if the wife answers and she knows her husband's family was from North Carolina, she might assume he was born there also.  Sometimes a neighbor might provide the information. You never know what you will get, so you have to factor in the answers and see if they are telling you anything after all.

Just checked Lee’s tree again, he has Francis Marion Davis down as a Brick Wall. He hasn’t got any info on his parents either. There must be something we can find? Surely

[TomGad]

Love how scuffed these census’ are at times. Here in 1860 Josephine’s birth location is set as Missouri but on her son’s death certificate it states her birth as being in France!

Information depends on the person giving it. But sometimes a wrong location can tell you something. Was Josephine French? France owned Louisiana, Arkansas and a whole lot more of North America until 1803. I haven't looked up the name Celisbeast yet.

Also U.S. censuses are not done the same as the U.K. An enumerator goes around, tries to find everyone, and talks to whoever answers the door. So if the wife answers and she knows her husband's family was from North Carolina, she might assume he was born there also.  Sometimes a neighbor might provide the information. You never know what you will get, so you have to factor in the answers and see if they are telling you anything after all.

I have just found this from 1847 meaning if Francis was born in 1830 he would be 17. Surely he couldn’t have had this many marriages though right? Interesting it mentions Jefferson as I’m sure I have heard that mentioned somewhere else in this mess.