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Re: Trying to find my great grandfather on the 1930 Census
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 23 November 25 20:58 GMT (UK) »
He isnt with his grandparents im afraid. The only grandparent he could have lived with at that time is Bertha’s mother Anna Lee. Anna can be found in the 1930 census and she is living by herself and her grandaughter (Jim’s sister) Lula May Davis (listed as Lee on the census though)

Where was Bertha's mother living in 1930? Is her full name Anna Lee or are they two given names? If not in Moline, then it is another locality to look in for James Pershing Davis. If you have a link on familysearch or ancestry, that would help.

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Re: Trying to find my great grandfather on the 1930 Census
« Reply #37 on: Sunday 23 November 25 21:03 GMT (UK) »
He isnt with his grandparents im afraid. The only grandparent he could have lived with at that time is Bertha’s mother Anna Lee. Anna can be found in the 1930 census and she is living by herself and her grandaughter (Jim’s sister) Lula May Davis (listed as Lee on the census though)

Where was Bertha's mother living in 1930? Is her full name Anna Lee or are they two given names? If not in Moline, then it is another locality to look in for James Pershing Davis. If you have a link on familysearch or ancestry, that would help.

Here is a the link to the record on Ancestry.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/6224/records/94993710?tid=192997417&pid=312533858083&_phsrc=YhV13&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true

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Re: Trying to find my great grandfather on the 1930 Census
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 23 November 25 21:16 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Trying to find my great grandfather on the 1930 Census
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 23 November 25 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Could this one be a possibility?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XC7X-L9R?lang=en

Dont think thats him. Never heard of any of those people


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Re: Trying to find my great grandfather on the 1930 Census
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 23 November 25 21:39 GMT (UK) »
Potentially another red herring, but nonetheless an interesting 1930 census one here, especially the added note on original:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R8C-PDY?

Could it be James/Jim?
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Re: Trying to find my great grandfather on the 1930 Census
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 23 November 25 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Where was Bertha's mother living in 1930? Is her full name Anna Lee or are they two given names? If not in Moline, then it is another locality to look in for James Pershing Davis. If you have a link on familysearch or ancestry, that would help.

Here is a the link to the record on Ancestry.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/6224/records/94993710?tid=192997417&pid=312533858083&_phsrc=YhV13&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true


Thank you. So they are in Tecumseh, Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma. The brother Robert married in that county in 1931.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q29M-HW2G?lang=en

from Bertha's obituary, 1934
surviving are the widower, her parents Mr and Mrs Robert L Davis of Moline, two sisters, Mrs Emelie Holtgrave, Whittier, Calif.; Miss Lula Mae Davis, Moline, six brothers, Albert, Robert  and Willard Davis, Long View, Texas; Francis  of Yukon, Okla., etc.

So what I think happened is that Robert E Davis left most of the children behind in Oklahoma when he went back to Illinois. He left Lula May with her grandmother to keep house for her. He took Bertha with him to keep house for him. The sons might have been left with neighbors or who knows where. James is back with his father by 1934. One of the brothers married in Iowa in the early 1940's. And I found a few of the brothers in Oklahoma or Texas on later records. (The familysearch tree has the records.) But I didn't find any of them in 1930.

So my guess is James Pershing Davis is somewhere in Oklahoma or Texas in 1930.

If it's any consolation, no one else seems to be finding any of them in 1930 either. The tree at familysearch doesn't have any of them and ancestry's hints didn't point to anyone that matched in 1930.

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Re: Trying to find my great grandfather on the 1930 Census
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 23 November 25 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Where was Bertha's mother living in 1930? Is her full name Anna Lee or are they two given names? If not in Moline, then it is another locality to look in for James Pershing Davis. If you have a link on familysearch or ancestry, that would help.

Here is a the link to the record on Ancestry.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/6224/records/94993710?tid=192997417&pid=312533858083&_phsrc=YhV13&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true


from Bertha's obituary, 1934
surviving are the widower, her parents Mr and Mrs Robert L Davis of Moline, two sisters, Mrs Emelie Holtgrave, Whittier, Calif.; Miss Lula Mae Davis, Moline, six brothers, Albert, Robert  and Willard Davis, Long View, Texas; Francis  of Yukon, Okla., etc.

So what I think happened is that Robert E Davis left most of the children behind in Oklahoma when he went back to Illinois. He left Lula May with her grandmother to keep house for her. He took Bertha with him to keep house for him. The sons might have been left with neighbors or who knows where. James is back with his father by 1934. One of the brothers married in Iowa in the early 1940's. And I found a few of the brothers in Oklahoma or Texas on later records. (The familysearch tree has the records.) But I didn't find any of them in 1930.

So my guess is James Pershing Davis is somewhere in Oklahoma or Texas in 1930.

If it's any consolation, no one else seems to be finding any of them in 1930 either. The tree at familysearch doesn't have any of them and ancestry's hints didn't point to anyone that matched in 1930.

Elbert not Albert but everything else adds up.

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Re: Trying to find my great grandfather on the 1930 Census
« Reply #43 on: Monday 24 November 25 07:58 GMT (UK) »
Where was Bertha's mother living in 1930? Is her full name Anna Lee or are they two given names? If not in Moline, then it is another locality to look in for James Pershing Davis. If you have a link on familysearch or ancestry, that would help.

Here is a the link to the record on Ancestry.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/6224/records/94993710?tid=192997417&pid=312533858083&_phsrc=YhV13&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true


Thank you. So they are in Tecumseh, Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma. The brother Robert married in that county in 1931.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q29M-HW2G?lang=en

from Bertha's obituary, 1934
surviving are the widower, her parents Mr and Mrs Robert L Davis of Moline, two sisters, Mrs Emelie Holtgrave, Whittier, Calif.; Miss Lula Mae Davis, Moline, six brothers, Albert, Robert  and Willard Davis, Long View, Texas; Francis  of Yukon, Okla., etc.

So what I think happened is that Robert E Davis left most of the children behind in Oklahoma when he went back to Illinois. He left Lula May with her grandmother to keep house for her. He took Bertha with him to keep house for him. The sons might have been left with neighbors or who knows where. James is back with his father by 1934. One of the brothers married in Iowa in the early 1940's. And I found a few of the brothers in Oklahoma or Texas on later records. (The familysearch tree has the records.) But I didn't find any of them in 1930.

So my guess is James Pershing Davis is somewhere in Oklahoma or Texas in 1930.

If it's any consolation, no one else seems to be finding any of them in 1930 either. The tree at familysearch doesn't have any of them and ancestry's hints didn't point to anyone that matched in 1930.

Just re-reading this, who is Robert E Davis??

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Re: Trying to find my great grandfather on the 1930 Census
« Reply #44 on: Monday 24 November 25 08:00 GMT (UK) »
Where was Bertha's mother living in 1930? Is her full name Anna Lee or are they two given names? If not in Moline, then it is another locality to look in for James Pershing Davis. If you have a link on familysearch or ancestry, that would help.

Here is a the link to the record on Ancestry.
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/6224/records/94993710?tid=192997417&pid=312533858083&_phsrc=YhV13&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true


Thank you. So they are in Tecumseh, Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma. The brother Robert married in that county in 1931.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q29M-HW2G?lang=en

from Bertha's obituary, 1934
surviving are the widower, her parents Mr and Mrs Robert L Davis of Moline, two sisters, Mrs Emelie Holtgrave, Whittier, Calif.; Miss Lula Mae Davis, Moline, six brothers, Albert, Robert  and Willard Davis, Long View, Texas; Francis  of Yukon, Okla., etc.

So what I think happened is that Robert E Davis left most of the children behind in Oklahoma when he went back to Illinois. He left Lula May with her grandmother to keep house for her. He took Bertha with him to keep house for him. The sons might have been left with neighbors or who knows where. James is back with his father by 1934. One of the brothers married in Iowa in the early 1940's. And I found a few of the brothers in Oklahoma or Texas on later records. (The familysearch tree has the records.) But I didn't find any of them in 1930.

So my guess is James Pershing Davis is somewhere in Oklahoma or Texas in 1930.

If it's any consolation, no one else seems to be finding any of them in 1930 either. The tree at familysearch doesn't have any of them and ancestry's hints didn't point to anyone that matched in 1930.

Something interesting to note is that I cannot find Jim’s brother Willard Davis as you have named him in the 1930 census either. His full name is Jess Willard Davis but obviously went by just Willard aswell.