Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.

[minniehaha]

Again at death, a number of details were unknown about Roy. Maybe the hospital situation, although you say it was far from home, ( I don't know the region) was the best option in his circumstances?

Minniehaha.

[Fresh Fields]

Hello thread.

In reference to reply #18. 

While NZ Papers Past searches, of that period, mainly refer to the Government Cinematographer

There was no TV, so between WWI and WWII even quite small local halls hosted a promoter / projectionist, with a travelling projector, and a can of film. Visiting monthly or more frequently.

Those enterprises had their seasons of popularity, and relied heavily on the availability of a healthy local work force. But could provide a secondary income to a qualified/experienced operator.

For a period in the mid 1930’s even Rawene had it’s own Eclipse Theatre opposite the garage mentioned in the bankruptcy. In reality a tad run down community hall, administered by the local Council.

PP searches in the same period will find quite a number of references to; film projectionist, picture projectionist, and less frequently cinematograph projectionist.

Alan.

[TwiggyTree]

Awesome educational update Alan. 

I knew there had to be some sort of explanation.

[Dundee]

The incident involving Mrs Elizabeth GRAY of Maitland Street had wide coverage.

Here is one article.

No idea if it is the mother of Roy.  She had a daughter named Jane.https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19011023.2.21?
items_per_page=10&page=3&query=%22elizabeth+gray+mother+%22~4+&snippet=true

Sue

One of the articles says that Jane is the wife of Kennedy RENWICK but they didn't actually marry until 1908.  She added the name 'Mabel' which I think she probably invented herself, and she also later used the name 'Annie'. His proper name was William Kennedy RENWICK.

Here they are courting in 1900 

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19001231.2.22

Jane in 1915/16

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZTR19150807.2.47

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19160613.2.31

There was a Jane ASTON born in 1869 but that would make her aged 10 years older than stated in the papers.  Her age was recorded as 48 when she died in 1922.

1869/38741
ASTON, Jane
Parents: Elisabeth/William

Unfortunately, there is very little to go on. Just a few names handwritten on a small piece of paper.

Do you know where this came from?  Even vaguely - does it look old or was it written recently?

Debra 

[minniehaha]

Hi Debra,

Thank you for your response. Yes, I know the notes on the scrap of paper were put togther by a relative of my friend, possibly about 20 years ago? Very quickly drawing a blank, as has been the case since then. 🤔


Minniehaha.

[Lucy2]

One of the articles says that Jane is the wife of Kennedy RENWICK but they didn't actually marry until 1908.  She added the name 'Mabel' which I think she probably invented herself, and she also later used the name 'Annie'. His proper name was William Kennedy RENWICK.

There was a Jane ASTON born in 1869 but that would make her aged 10 years older than stated in the papers.  Her age was recorded as 48 when she died in 1922.

1869/38741
ASTON, Jane
Parents: Elisabeth/William

Debra 

I'd also dug up similar information earlier, in an effort to "sort out" a connection to Elizabeth GRAY of 131 Maitland Street, Dunedin.      (Hadn't yet posted here as became very distracted by the antics of her daughter Jane - alias Mabel / Annie ... and also locating Elizabeth.).   

The aforementioned Elizabeth GRAY is, I believe, one and the same as. "Elisabeth / Elizabeth ASTON".
[Elizabeth JACKSON m. (NZ) William ASTON - 1862.   4 children of that union.    The child Jane ASTON 1869 (-birth registered at Stewart Island according to one source ? - another child reg'd at Riverton).

re:  William Kennedy RENWICK :   Born at Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC - c. 1875 :  Colourful character with a variety of occupations :   Appears to have deserted Mabel Jane c. 1916 - and gone to AUS - newspaper notice early 1917 in effort for anxious wife to locate him.  He died AUS 1941.

Mabel Jane/Jane, had convictions recorded under forename of "Annie" - bc 1877. 
Re:  Age difference from that of Jane ASTON - given that she altered her name, and, married a man  some years younger, she very likely tinkered with her age also ?
1908 Marriage probably took place in or near, Auckland ?   William Kennedy RENWICK is on e/roll Ak-Manukau 1903 claiming seaman's voting right. 

    There's always a slim possibility that Jane was the birth mother of Roy STEWART - and that he was handed over to her mother Elizabeth STEWART to raise ? 
And, perhaps later put in foster care ?   

*    Might be worthwhile checking if "Roy STEWART" appears on NZ school rolls ??   (A guardians' name would be helpful).

   ~  Lu
 




 

[minniehaha]

Hi Lu,

As usual, you have been busy covering a lot of ground and being very thorough. Thank you. 

Re the school rolls. How are these searchable?

Minniehaha.

[Lucy2]

Yes, I know the notes on the scrap of paper were put togther by a relative of my friend, possibly about 20 years ago? Very quickly drawing a blank, as has been the case since then. 🤔

Oops missed seeing this before I posted last reply. 

Helpful to have confirmed that the notes on scrap of paper were added by another researcher.   I was thinking maybe that information re: Elizabeth STEWART was simply just taken from a Dunedin electoral roll in an effort to make some headway with the search ??  (Sort of a preliminary research step ?)

Marriage printout really needed now    ... hopefully an occupation for "father" Joseph ?

Also wonder too, how Roy gained experience as a "cinematographer" - and seemingly at quite an early age ??

   ~   Lu

[Lucy2]

Hi Lu,

As usual, you have been busy covering a lot of ground and being very thorough. Thank you. 

Re the school rolls. How are these searchable?

Minniehaha.

Hi ... you will need to call on a favour from someone who has the relevant NZSG CD.     (Sorry I can't help with that).
[You probably don't want a trip to Auckland library ?  ... but possibly they hold "Library Editions" of NZSG CD's ? ].     
Fingers crossed though that a helpful RootsChatter can assist. 

   ~  Lu