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Re: Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 23 November 25 07:59 GMT (UK) »
An Elizabeth GRAY married a STEWART in New Zealand in 1881.

If it's the correct couple it lends support for a New Zealand birth for Roy.

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Re: Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 23 November 25 08:05 GMT (UK) »
The groom was a James STEWART. Dead end, sorry.

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HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
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Re: Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 November 25 09:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello Spades,

Nice to 'see' you again.  :)

Thank you for your contributions.  My friend whose family it is, has not managed to progress beyond what I have shown above. Roy's marriage certificate appears to be the first record of his age and parentage. On this, his name is recorded as Roy STEWART but his death certificate shows Roy Edward STEWART.

Nothing is known about his parentage other than the names provided on the marriage and death certificates.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
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Re: Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 November 25 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Might an Intention to Marry shed some light on how long Roy / Mum / Dad had been in the area?
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Re: Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 November 25 00:23 GMT (UK) »
I'm not sure that would help as we don't have any marriage details for Roy's parents.

Roy married in Waimamaku where his wife was born.

I wonder if Roy can be found on any Electoral rolls prior to his marriage in 1925?


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
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Re: Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.
« Reply #14 on: Monday 24 November 25 01:26 GMT (UK) »
This is a tricky one!

Have you considered approaching any local history society, the local branch of the NZSG, or local church records?

I can get the ITM if you think it might help.

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MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
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Re: Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.
« Reply #15 on: Monday 24 November 25 01:50 GMT (UK) »
It certainly is a very tricky one. My friend, whose family it is, has been "all around the houses" with this search.

Roy was married at the home of his bride, so no church record there. Thank you for the look up offer, but I don't think it would reveal more than the marriage certificate details.

Clutching at straws here, I'm thinking it might be helpful to obtain the marriage printout, because it will show the witnesses.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
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Re: Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.
« Reply #16 on: Monday 24 November 25 02:49 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if Roy can be found on any Electoral rolls prior to his marriage in 1925?

Hi Minnie

These two electoral listings >

1925 - Northland - Bay of Islands - (Supplementary roll)

STEWART - Roy - motor driver - at Rawene

   (at this location with Evelyn May in later years)

??   1922 - same electorate   -  added:  also, Supplementary roll

STEWART - Roy - at Waiotemarama* - occupation - cinematographer  ???
  (*  Waiotemarama - is west of Waimamaku village )

1922 - looks promising - just not sure about the occupation  ??

     ~   Lu

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Re: Missing: Elizabeth and Joseph STEWART, also their son Roy at birth.
« Reply #17 on: Monday 24 November 25 02:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lu,

Thank you. Yes, you are on the right track. Marriage certificate shows occupation as "Mechanic". Death certificate shows, "Theatre Manager".

Marriage certificate shows usual address as Rawene.

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.