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Offline Steve3180

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 30 November 25 10:46 GMT (UK) »
valk - the reason I would like to be able to reject Thrulines is so that it can present me with the next most likely solution.
I seems to me that although there is only one 'correct' solution, there are many 'possible' solutions, we are presented with the most likely of them. I want to reject the most likely if I don't like it and look at the next, etc etc.
MyHeritage's version of Thruline's shows more of their working out and I am assuming Ancestry's uses similar methodology.
I know that by adding dummy ancestors I can stop Thrulines but that's not exactly what is needed here.

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« Reply #28 on: Monday 01 December 25 12:36 GMT (UK) »
I like it but i wish there was a reject function.  On my mum's line it suggests links which match my fathers DNA.  Its frustrating I cant reject this.  Distinct lines are blurring between folks.
Hancock - Dursley/ Merthyr
Pritchard - Merthyr/ Salop
Evans - Merthyr
Jones - Merthyr, Carmarthern
Griffiths - Merthyr, Pembrokeshire - kilgerran
Axhorn - Tiverton / Merthyr
Egan - Merthyr/ Bradford
Jowett - Bradford
Calvert -Bradford
Benjamin - Merthyr
Morgan - Merthyr
Smith - Merthyr / High Littleton - Somerset
Cross - Dursley
Berry - Dursley
Woodward - Dursley

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« Reply #29 on: Monday 01 December 25 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both for your replies.  I generally reject the ludicrous matches by ignoring them.  Ancestry does show the trees that might be the source of their calculations and adjusting those might provide a different thruline but contacting the owners of these does fall on stoney ground.  People fall in love with their trees and don't like to change them even though the error of their ways is clear to see.
I was led to believe by a friend that DNA analysis would open up my tree but I now realise that I was doing remarkably well with paper records and can probably live with not knowing the father of the odd illegitimate child.  Although I have spent many absorbing hours puzzling over mysterious matches whose family haven't left the US for 400 years, I would generally say that for my objectives DNA has been a waste of time.

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« Reply #30 on: Monday 01 December 25 23:54 GMT (UK) »
DNA results are the icing on the cake for a good accurate paper based tree though that accuracy can also make Thrulines almost worthless.  On the other hand DNA can uncover NPE's & be huge for adoptees & those trying to identify an unknown ancestor though some rely too heavily on Thrulines and other trees. 

I'm an adoptee with NPE parents & an NPE grandparent and had to ditch twenty years of traditional research though the biggest issue for someone such as myself is low cM matches. Thrulines is no benefit until the link is established by which point the work is done so I don't really need it.

As someone who builds deep and wide floating branches the tree checker has been a big help, I might build two branches months apart and the tree checker has picked up duplicates that merge branches together. It's all about using the right tool for the job even if some of them are cheap and cheerful.
 


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Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 02 December 25 07:15 GMT (UK) »
I am in a very similar position to Glen.

I have always been sceptical about Thrulines, in that in any suggested line from your Thruline match to your MRCA pick a person in the middle of the line and click on Evaluate.  Look at multiple trees and note the parent, who frequently does not stack up as being valid as the parent shown in the predicted Thruline can be different. 

Thrulines IMO is best treated as Rough Guidelines, work each person in the traditional Paper Chase manner.  When you get the match linked you have the best end result, a documented line validated by DNA as being as accurate as it currently can be.

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 03 December 25 13:24 GMT (UK) »
I can see the new view for ThruLines now. I like it.

It would be more useful if I could download it to my computer as a .pdf and print it. The same goes for the clusters.
England: Barnett; Beaumont; Christy; George; Holland; Parker; Pope; Salisbury
Scotland: Currie; Curror; Dobson; Muir; Oliver; Pryde; Turnbull; Wilson
Ireland: Carson; Colbert; Coy; Craig; McGlinchey; Riley; Rooney; Trotter; Waters/Watters

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 03 December 25 13:31 GMT (UK) »
I'll note that ThruLines still shows my full brother, whose DNA is attached to the same tree as mine, as my 3rd cousin.

It correctly shows me as a descendant of our great-grandfather (Mr. X). Then it creates a duplicate  Mr. X as his brother, and shows my brother as the descendant of our Mr. X's brother.

He's my "3rd cousin," with 2680 shared cMs.
England: Barnett; Beaumont; Christy; George; Holland; Parker; Pope; Salisbury
Scotland: Currie; Curror; Dobson; Muir; Oliver; Pryde; Turnbull; Wilson
Ireland: Carson; Colbert; Coy; Craig; McGlinchey; Riley; Rooney; Trotter; Waters/Watters

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 03 December 25 19:56 GMT (UK) »
I'll note that ThruLines still shows my full brother, whose DNA is attached to the same tree as mine, as my 3rd cousin.

It correctly shows me as a descendant of our great-grandfather (Mr. X). Then it creates a duplicate  Mr. X as his brother, and shows my brother as the descendant of our Mr. X's brother.

He's my "3rd cousin," with 2680 shared cMs.

I had a similar problem with my mother and my sister on both the old style view and the new. It deleted the tile for the mother and Thrulines showed her as my father. Depending on which ancestor's Thrulines I was looking at my mother showed up as my aunt, as a half sister to herself and other such rubbish.

To fix this I unlinked both myself, parents and sister from my tree and from each other and then I relinked us and it fixed the problem.
Armitage, Atherton, Barton, Beck, Bradshaw, Brumfitt, Chetwin, Conalty, Connolly, Connor(s), Davidson, Hilton, Hoey, Johnson, Jones, Knight, Lester, McDonald, Molyneux, Morris, Pownall, Rushton, Spark, Stanley, Tunstall, Welsby, West, Wharton, Williams, Wilson, Windridge, Windstandley

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Re: Ancestry Thrulines
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 03 December 25 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the tip, GailB. What a pain in the butt, LOL.
England: Barnett; Beaumont; Christy; George; Holland; Parker; Pope; Salisbury
Scotland: Currie; Curror; Dobson; Muir; Oliver; Pryde; Turnbull; Wilson
Ireland: Carson; Colbert; Coy; Craig; McGlinchey; Riley; Rooney; Trotter; Waters/Watters