Help with Plea from 1512

[JustinL]

I would be enormously grateful if somebody could provide me with a summary of this lengthy plea covering Edward Radley's accusations against six men.

The complete original image of CP 40/998 can be found here https://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/aalt/cp40_link.php?folder=140&image=1020

John Barre is, most likely, one of my distant ancestors.

Many thanks, Justin

[JustinL]

My apologies for the incorrect sequence of these three images.

[horselydown86]

To get you started, do some research on the Forcible Entry Act of 1381, created by the sixth parliament of Richard II in the king's fifth regnal year.

The text from q(uo)d nullus (in line 6 of the plea) to redimat(ur) (I think) (in line 9) is a Latin version of the standard English wording of the statute.

The short version of the plea is that the six men entered into ten acres of Edward Radley's grazing land at Wanting on 12 March in the second year of Henry VIII, against the form of the statute, causing damage to the value of 10 pounds.

[Bookbox]

Then the defendants, via their attorney Richard Copcote, deny force and wrong, and request permission to enter into discussion and to respond further after Easter, and this is granted.

So, once again, you might find another entry later.

[JustinL]

Thank you both very much. This puts a few more morsels of flesh on the bare bones of the Barre lineage.

Members of both the Barre and Wynterbourn families were listed as poll tax payers in Grove in 1381. The names also appear on the 1522 muster roll. They are my most distant known ancestors.

I shall definitely look into the Forcible Entry Act.

[Vance Mead]

I suppose you've seen this one? In 1416, Walter Barre, of Grove, husbandman, a defendant in Common Pleas for debt of four pounds.
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http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H5/CP40no621/bCP40no621dorses/IMG_1349.htm

[JustinL]

Yes, Vance, I had seen it, thank you.

I'm very much a novice with these old Latin texts, but I can read that William Clement was claiming that Walter Barre owed him £4.

[JustinL]

I have attempted a transcription of the 1416 plea against Walter Barre.

Willelmus Clement de Grove per attornatum suum optulit se iiijto die versus Walterum Barre de Grove in comitatu predicto

husbondman de placito quod reddat ei quatuor libras quas ei debet & iniuste detinet &c. Et ipse non &c.

Et {…} fuit vicecomiti quod summoneret eum &c Et vicecomes modo mandavit quod nichil habet &c. Ideo capiat quod sit hic in Octabis

sancte Trinitatis &c Et unde &c.

In the third line, I would expect to see preceptum, but that does not appear to be so in this case.

Any ideas please?

[Vance Mead]

preceptum is that bit that you have in brackets: et pc fuit vic...