John MAGUIRE

[Eyesee]

Trying to find anything about John MAGUIRE. Don't have very much to go on I'm afraid.

His son Hugh died in Belfast in March 1896 and in his obituary it states The deceased, who was fifty three years of age, was the only living representative of a well-known family who held land on the Brooke estate, County Fermanagh, for over two hundred years.

When Hugh married in 1870 his marriage registration just had his father John's rank or profession as Gentleman.

Hugh apparently had a sister, name unknown, who either married a SMITH or was adopted by a family named SMITH and went to the USA.

There may have been a marriage that did not sit well with the families, hence not much to go on.

Thanks
Ian C

[Sinann]

When you put the name Brooke into Griffin’s Valuation and choose Fermanagh you get 973 results, not for the name Brooke but for tenants of Brooke.
I only looked at the first 100 and they were all in the Civil Parish of Aghavea, all tenants of Sir Victor A Brooke Bt.
The details won’t open on my iPad but the date will be the early 1850s.

It would at least give you an area to search, but you should check all the pages in case there are other Civil parishes, you can then check for Maguires in each parish. A Gentleman is likely to have property of high value which should reduce the numbers a lot.
https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

[aghadowey]

Is this the correct Hugh?
The Will of Hugh Maguire late of Wandsworth Villas Strandtown County Down Merchant who died 22 March 1896 was proved at Belfast by Sarah J. Maguire Widow and George A. Maguire Gentleman both of Strandtown Executors. Effects £10,014 18s. 9d.
Will dated 13 Sept.1893 mentions 'wife,' son George ...
https://apps.proni.gov.uk/WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=214010

This might be the place to search for Hugh's father John but be aware that Maguire (and its various spellings) is one of the most common names in County Fermanagh.
https://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp

[Eyesee]

Thanks Sinann, have started looking through the Griffiths and found a couple of possibilities. Looked at the one in Knockmacmanus as it was 66 acres. Managed to find the area on Google Maps and there appear to be some ruins where the old Griffiths Map shows buildings.

Yes aghadowey that is the son Hugh. Had found his will. Had also looked through the other wills and as you say Maguire is a very common name in Fermanagh. Without knowing any other names it makes it a bit difficult. Two of Hugh Maguire's grandsons were Hugh and Denis, which also appear to be common Maguire christian names.

Ian C

[aghadowey]

For reference here's the marriage of Hugh Maguire-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11398/8185370.pdf
Hugh's occupation is shopman which indicates that father's occupation of 'gentleman' may be a bit exaggerated.

I think you need to realise that you need to look at both acreage and value of a holding. There are lots of rural areas with poor ground only suitable for grazing and those parcels often cover a lot of ground.
With the occupation "gentleman" you might be looking at a landsteward rather than farmer.

[scotmum]

As Hugh apparently had 6 sons and 2 daughters, do any of their names provide more potential clues at all?

[Eyesee]

Most of the children's names appear to be from the mother's side Sarah Anne MITCHELL. Her siblings were Sydney George, Louisa Harriette, Elizabeth Mary and Alfred Mansfield. Their parents were Robert MITCHELL and Elizabeth MANSFIELD.

George Jordan - George from the Mitchell side
Alfred Hugh - Alfred from Mitchell side and Hugh from his father
William Robert - Both from the Mitchell side
Sidney James - Sidney from the Mitchell side
Harry Mansfield - Mansfield is maternal grandmother's maiden surname
Frederick John - John probably from his paternal grandfather
Elizabeth Louise - Elizabeth maternal grandmother
Annabel Frances

Ian C

[aghadowey]

Have you checked for baptisms of all the children in case any of the sponsors have a Maguire connection?

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
This might help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookeborough
The Maguire estate was settled on the Brooke family after a rebellion in 1641.Presumably the Maguire family stayed in the area after Sir Henry Brooke took over.

Ciderdrinker