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Dorset Dining Rooms, Southampton - Completed, with thanks
« on: Wednesday 19 November 25 19:35 GMT (UK) »
According to a newspaper article dated 23 March 1901 George Hamerton transferred the licence of the Dorset Dining Rooms to William Henry Cozens whilst George acquired the licence to The Angel Inn.   By the time of the census, later that month, George is at The Angel Inn, Southampton but the only William Henry Cozens that I can find is a Fisherman at Weston. I can't see a William Cozens at the Dorset Dining Rooms either.

I am trying to find out where the Dorset Dining Rooms were.  Can anyone help?
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Dorset Dining Rooms, Southampton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 20:19 GMT (UK) »
They were at 2 East Street according to this report. https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/f6b819b4-3b1c-4cb0-8042-cad7ce43f6bc

Are you sure he was William Henry and not William James as reported?

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Re: Dorset Dining Rooms, Southampton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Possible?

25 October 1866: Weymouth Telegram
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DORSET DINING ROOMS.
ALL Persons VISITING SOUTHAMPTON (either on Business or Pleasure) should also Visit the DORSET DINNER, TEA, and COFFEE ROOMS Upper East-street, 2 doors below All Saints Church.
Fine Ales. Good Beds. Charges strictly moderate.
 JOHN ALLEN, Proprietor.
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Re: Dorset Dining Rooms, Southampton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for that  :D

The newspaper article definitely says William Henry but they are often inaccurate.

On checking the 1901 census again I can see that he is at 2 East St.  I saw his occupation as Block Maker and didn't read further but he was also a Publican.

The Dorset Dining Rooms and The Angel were quite close together.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Dorset Dining Rooms, Southampton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 20:30 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for the earlier advert Alan.  It definitely sounds more than a pub.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Dorset Dining Rooms, Southampton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 20:33 GMT (UK) »
1868/1870 Town Plan showing East Street and All Saints Church, but no sign of it, presumably because it wasn't licensed.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/231283524#zoom=4.6&lat=8407&lon=3417&layers=BT

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Re: Dorset Dining Rooms, Southampton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 20:38 GMT (UK) »
A 1902 article about a petty theft at the Dorset Dining Rooms has the owner being Sophia Cozens the wife of William James Cozens.

It was clearly licensed at that time.
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Re: Dorset Dining Rooms, Southampton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 20:40 GMT (UK) »
That's an interesting map.  So many breweries, almost one on every block!
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Dorset Dining Rooms, Southampton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 November 25 20:42 GMT (UK) »
A 1902 article about a petty theft at the Dorset Dining Rooms has the owner being Sophia Cozens the wife of William James Cozens.

It was clearly licensed at that time.

Yes, the accused had been drinking there.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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