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Re: Help deciphering please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 November 25 06:13 GMT (UK) »
I don't profess to be computer whizz even after all these years but I have managed to post
more of the page ;D

Not sure why it stopped me previously but who cares.
I hope this will offer more clarity.

Thank you all again for your help and interest.


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Re: Help deciphering please
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 November 25 07:13 GMT (UK) »
Could it be something Poison????? ???

Gee I hope not.

I noted the writer or writers have misspellings mistakes in a few places. ::)


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Re: Help deciphering please
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 November 25 11:22 GMT (UK) »
The words between age and corps seem to be a cause of death in other cases - so possibly "elect poison"  ???  meaning elective or deliberate poisoning ??? ???
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Help deciphering please
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 November 25 13:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for posting the wider area from the page.

After comparing the letter forms and reading most of the page, I can't add anything to what has already been posted - it's written Elict pasion either as one or two words, and is the cause of death when written between the age and Corps.


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Re: Help deciphering please
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 November 25 14:33 GMT (UK) »
it's written Elict pasion either as one or two words, and is the cause of death when written between the age and Corps.

I agree.

elicere (Lat.) can mean 'to draw out' or 'extend'
passio, passionis (Lat.) means 'suffering' or 'endurance'

So I wonder if it is just a way of expressing 'after lengthy suffering' ?

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Re: Help deciphering please
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 November 25 14:48 GMT (UK) »
I'm sure you have the explanation, Bookbox.

The "causes of death" are very much of an everyday, non medically-skilled nature, so this fits perfectly, while also fitting with the writer being a Latin speaking clergyman.

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Re: Help deciphering please
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 20 November 25 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Well done Bookbox, your suggestion makes a lot of sense. I think you've cracked it
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Help deciphering please
« Reply #16 on: Friday 21 November 25 07:18 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all very much.

I didn't think of Latin so that is a real possibility, only thing is I have to wonder why the only use of
Latin is in that one line?? and those two words.

All other information recorded is in fairly plain English although with spelling mistakes the hand is fairly consistent.
Can't help but think there is more to it but I may have to just leave it at that.

As always the members at Rootschat are very helpful and always willing to help.

Very appreciated
thankyou.


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Re: Help deciphering please
« Reply #17 on: Monday 24 November 25 01:32 GMT (UK) »
It may not be the only instance of Latin in in the register though

It would be used by an educated person with a command possibly of several languages who chose the most apt way of explaining or noting down what he had been told.